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Re: Billy Glidden at the MMW fall ball [Re: HemiDart68] #1310147
09/25/12 04:30 PM
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Well if it helps any the Mopars at the Strip race suffers from numerous oil downs most years as well. IN fact I do not attend an event that has MORE issues with this type of thing than it does. The weather also has played a big role the last two years as well.It is just a fact of racing here in the early spring. Just like racing here in the fall. Contrary to what many people think it does get to cold and windy to race here for a large part of the year.

I also agree if you stand your car on the bumper and come down hard pull over..Save all the other racers at the facility from enduring anymore pain than necessary and excercise some common courtesy to your fellow racers and PULL OVER. I never understand why people DONT do this. As for the diaper question, well from my experience it tends to be the slower cars that cause the issues. Still a problem in NHRA as well with stock and SS cars oiling down the track, then again the rest of us HAVE to have one. Even S/ST is required to run a diaper or containment device.

One last tidbit. Let me see if I can get this straight. The complaint here is that a FREE race was not able to finish?!? I dont understand why ANYONE would complain about not getting in a FREE race. What did you loose by not being able to complete a race you did not pay to enter? Im confused. I get that you are dissapointed that you were unable to complete it but, what financial stake did you have? COME ON MAN!!


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Re: Billy Glidden at the MMW fall ball [Re: Al_Alguire] #1310148
09/25/12 04:51 PM
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Well if it helps any the Mopars at the Strip race suffers from numerous oil downs most years as well. IN fact I do not attend an event that has MORE issues with this type of thing than it does. The weather also has played a big role the last two years as well.It is just a fact of racing here in the early spring. Just like racing here in the fall. Contrary to what many people think it does get to cold and windy to race here for a large part of the year.

I also agree if you stand your car on the bumper and come down hard pull over..Save all the other racers at the facility from enduring anymore pain than necessary and excercise some common courtesy to your fellow racers and PULL OVER. I never understand why people DONT do this. As for the diaper question, well from my experience it tends to be the slower cars that cause the issues. Still a problem in NHRA as well with stock and SS cars oiling down the track, then again the rest of us HAVE to have one. Even S/ST is required to run a diaper or containment device.

One last tidbit. Let me see if I can get this straight. The complaint here is that a FREE race was not able to finish?!? I dont understand why ANYONE would complain about not getting in a FREE race. What did you loose by not being able to complete a race you did not pay to enter? Im confused. I get that you are dissapointed that you were unable to complete it but, what financial stake did you have? COME ON MAN!!




I think i read the first round winners even got paid


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Re: Billy Glidden at the MMW fall ball [Re: HemiDart68] #1310149
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Well of course it's my fault... I'm the promoter

It's ok. We decided early Friday to go around the pits and cause the 15 hours of oil downs caused by the dip shits who blew their cars up and then decided to drive right down the center of the groove.

I had to get classes done... So naturally the classes who paid an entry fee and planned on being done Saturday had to take priority. The nss the quick and the 10.5 cars became the priority.

After the first round there were still over 100 cars in the no box class and 30 in box... So I could get 1 more round of those cars in based on the schedule or I could try to finish the other classes.

The quick cars decided on their own they were not willing to race in the track any longer all though I disagreed with that call I respected it.

So we raced until midnight and down to the final 5 or so nss cars finished nss and completed 1 round of quick.

As for any bitchin about glidden making one test pass .... Stuff that up your as s. the track asked me of he could make one test pass. I agreed. He is local and supports the track and I would do it again. And for the remark about him putting forth an effort to make a Mopar that fast, he knows enough that the parts we have make that happen don't exist so if you consider your self an engine builder I would think yu would know that....

We intended to race until it was all done. Dew point and track temp made us racing until 3 am impossible I didn't want to cancel anything. It doesn't cost me anymore or less to race but at the rate we were going it was an impossible feat

Maybe we should all look at getting diapers and belly pans sober can get the racing in




I agree 100% with containment trays and or diapers to keep the oil downs to a minimun but here is the reason self centered people don't think of.If you have a containment tray or a diaper and you have a small oil leak the oil will be cought instead of spraying a light mist of oil on the track that is not detected for someone else with a 50,000 dollar car to drive threw and stuff it in to the wall distroying there car and maybe there life and the lives of there loved ones.

The misley 200.00 you spend on a diaper might save the life of someone other than your own tight a$$ self.

Thats the problem with the world today no one gives a $hit about the next guy.




That may be an issue for some. However i still would like to know how to put a diaper on a car with a superstock legal stock front suspension in which the drag link passes through the oil pan?? if someone can show a good way to do this ill sign up and get one.




They call DRE or any other manufacturer an order one.




Yea because a diaper with a draglink hole in the side will do an outstanding job of containing oil in the event of an engine explosion. It would just be a way to pass tech, i don't see it actually doing very much.




Sure it would. It captures around the steering link a lot tighter than nothing plus it captures fluid if it comes out the bottom. Something is better than nothing.


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Re: Billy Glidden at the MMW fall ball [Re: bigtimeauto] #1310150
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I think i read the first round winners even got paid




They did. And got a free dinner to boot.

In between rounds I talked to a ton of people, walked the pits and the swap area, rode our minibike with my husband and I crammed on the tiny seat much to the entertainment of bystanders, and I even ran the autocross. There was plenty to do.

Re: Billy Glidden at the MMW fall ball [Re: Whompin_Wedge] #1310151
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well i was one of the cars to oil the track down in the semi of trophy,but i pulled over as soon as i figured it was the motor that went,and i went up and appologised to all the racers that were in the lanes trying get the race finished.yes it was a frustrating weekend for most to say the least but things happen and we all went home to live and race another day.that was the first motor i have blown up in my 32 years of beaten on mopars.hole in the side of the block big enough to put your fist through on pull out mangled rods and cam pieces.putting on an event of any kind is like being self employed,everyone thinks its easy.

Re: Billy Glidden at the MMW fall ball [Re: HemiDart68] #1310152
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Well of course it's my fault... I'm the promoter

It's ok. We decided early Friday to go around the pits and cause the 15 hours of oil downs caused by the dip shits who blew their cars up and then decided to drive right down the center of the groove.

I had to get classes done... So naturally the classes who paid an entry fee and planned on being done Saturday had to take priority. The nss the quick and the 10.5 cars became the priority.

After the first round there were still over 100 cars in the no box class and 30 in box... So I could get 1 more round of those cars in based on the schedule or I could try to finish the other classes.

The quick cars decided on their own they were not willing to race in the track any longer all though I disagreed with that call I respected it.

So we raced until midnight and down to the final 5 or so nss cars finished nss and completed 1 round of quick.

As for any bitchin about glidden making one test pass .... Stuff that up your as s. the track asked me of he could make one test pass. I agreed. He is local and supports the track and I would do it again. And for the remark about him putting forth an effort to make a Mopar that fast, he knows enough that the parts we have make that happen don't exist so if you consider your self an engine builder I would think yu would know that....

We intended to race until it was all done. Dew point and track temp made us racing until 3 am impossible I didn't want to cancel anything. It doesn't cost me anymore or less to race but at the rate we were going it was an impossible feat

Maybe we should all look at getting diapers and belly pans sober can get the racing in




I agree 100% with containment trays and or diapers to keep the oil downs to a minimun but here is the reason self centered people don't think of.If you have a containment tray or a diaper and you have a small oil leak the oil will be cought instead of spraying a light mist of oil on the track that is not detected for someone else with a 50,000 dollar car to drive threw and stuff it in to the wall distroying there car and maybe there life and the lives of there loved ones.

The misley 200.00 you spend on a diaper might save the life of someone other than your own tight a$$ self.

Thats the problem with the world today no one gives a $hit about the next guy.




That may be an issue for some. However i still would like to know how to put a diaper on a car with a superstock legal stock front suspension in which the drag link passes through the oil pan?? if someone can show a good way to do this ill sign up and get one.




They call DRE or any other manufacturer an order one.




Yea because a diaper with a draglink hole in the side will do an outstanding job of containing oil in the event of an engine explosion. It would just be a way to pass tech, i don't see it actually doing very much.




Yea pi$$ on all that work and expence who gives a $hit if a guy crashes behind my oil leaking junk what do I care, I still have my car and life!!


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Re: Billy Glidden at the MMW fall ball [Re: julian2007] #1310153
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Well of course it's my fault... I'm the promoter

It's ok. We decided early Friday to go around the pits and cause the 15 hours of oil downs caused by the dip shits who blew their cars up and then decided to drive right down the center of the groove.

I had to get classes done... So naturally the classes who paid an entry fee and planned on being done Saturday had to take priority. The nss the quick and the 10.5 cars became the priority.

After the first round there were still over 100 cars in the no box class and 30 in box... So I could get 1 more round of those cars in based on the schedule or I could try to finish the other classes.

The quick cars decided on their own they were not willing to race in the track any longer all though I disagreed with that call I respected it.

So we raced until midnight and down to the final 5 or so nss cars finished nss and completed 1 round of quick.

As for any bitchin about glidden making one test pass .... Stuff that up your as s. the track asked me of he could make one test pass. I agreed. He is local and supports the track and I would do it again. And for the remark about him putting forth an effort to make a Mopar that fast, he knows enough that the parts we have make that happen don't exist so if you consider your self an engine builder I would think yu would know that....

We intended to race until it was all done. Dew point and track temp made us racing until 3 am impossible I didn't want to cancel anything. It doesn't cost me anymore or less to race but at the rate we were going it was an impossible feat

Maybe we should all look at getting diapers and belly pans sober can get the racing in




I agree 100% with containment trays and or diapers to keep the oil downs to a minimun but here is the reason self centered people don't think of.If you have a containment tray or a diaper and you have a small oil leak the oil will be cought instead of spraying a light mist of oil on the track that is not detected for someone else with a 50,000 dollar car to drive threw and stuff it in to the wall distroying there car and maybe there life and the lives of there loved ones.

The misley 200.00 you spend on a diaper might save the life of someone other than your own tight a$$ self.

Thats the problem with the world today no one gives a $hit about the next guy.




That may be an issue for some. However i still would like to know how to put a diaper on a car with a superstock legal stock front suspension in which the drag link passes through the oil pan?? if someone can show a good way to do this ill sign up and get one.




They call DRE or any other manufacturer an order one.




Yea because a diaper with a draglink hole in the side will do an outstanding job of containing oil in the event of an engine explosion. It would just be a way to pass tech, i don't see it actually doing very much.




Yea pi$$ on all that work and expence who gives a $hit if a guy crashes behind my oil leaking junk what do I care, I still have my car and life!!




I wasn't looking to enter some sort of moral debate. I was actually just looking for a good solution. Personally I am building in some sort of oil containment device before i race my new car. Probably going to try and go the belly pan route. Just looking for a good way to do it and actually be effective. I don't see how having a diaper with holes in it for the oil lines and drag link being much more then putting a check in the box on the tech sheet, basically being better than nothing. Also if anyone thinks its as easy as caling DRE and popping it on the car i would gladly invite them to come see the car and the constraints I am working with and show me how its done. Probably the reason why just about every legal SS hemi car does not have a diaper.


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Re: Billy Glidden at the MMW fall ball [Re: sam64] #1310154
09/25/12 06:48 PM
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MONSTER MOPAR WEEKEND started as MONSTER MOPAR SUNDAY. When it became MONSTER MOPAR WEEKEND the entry fee went up and we raced for money both days. The entry fee for Pro and S/Pro was $110 with the old promoter and was for $2000 to win on Sat. and $4000 on Sunday. In fact I was racing at MONSTER MOPAR when this promoter was probably just out of diapers. Now, $125 for $3000 to win on Sunday is not a fair entry. The promoters flyer noted, now Sat. race was now included in entry fee of $125., Made us pay extra $50 last 2 events. At that point we are racing for 2 chances at winning a possible $4500 for our $125 entry. A much more reasonable payout to entry fee ratio. Now your car count goes up, and the gate take goes up. I am tired of hearing this s*it about a free race getting canceled. Sat. race was included in entry fee, NOT FREE!!!!!


Now lets go back and look at how Monster MOPAR started. 2 classes. Super Pro---Pro and some exibition cars Then Street got added, then NSS got added, then now several more. I don't have a problem with all of the classes because Pro and S/Pro is not everyones cup of tea. We all came for the class or classes of or choice and paid our entry fee. The promoter had a run order and shuffled it up and should not have. And if something gets eliminated why jip the class you make the most $$$$ off of.

All of the people that bought a tech card had race cars, even if some not so racy, including box and no-box, and should have all been considered equal, and run order followed until the race track was un-safe. Not cancel some and continue to race others. And yes, we did get paid for Sat. and because it was only 1 round completed pay was minimal, while others got to finish, even one class Sun. Morning. The race should of continued in the order that was posted, then when stopped for weather or time reasons all purses split at that time.

And I know how late we raced on Sunday because only one more pair went down the track after me and then it was off to the winners circle.

And back to the original subject. There are probably not parts avail. to make a MOPAR as competitive as Ford in 10.5. There probably would'nt be in a Ford if not for Glidden as they have helped to get Ford where it is today. When Bob Glidden did run MOPAR, for 1 year, he was very successful, and I believe if Glidden would switch to MOPAR, with there Knowledge, expertise and resources, they could do as well or maybe better.

And on bashing all the guys that oiled down, I am sure if they knew they were spilling there guts they would have stopped. Sometimes you just don't know your car is leaking.

Re: Billy Glidden at the MMW fall ball [Re: qwkmopardan] #1310155
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I wasn't there but heard some about the weekend. Weren't most of the cars that did the oil downs the "faster cars"? Seems that's your most experienced racers. Also if you are leaking oil like a stuck pig wouldn't it become obvious before you went a quarter mile if it happened at the starting line
Like I said I wasn't there, but maybe this a learning opportunity for everyone...promoter included
Hey what do I know just a fan as of now...carry on


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Re: Billy Glidden at the MMW fall ball [Re: qwkmopardan] #1310156
09/25/12 07:36 PM
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I don't know where you race at,but up here in N.W.INDIANA it cost me 65.00 to race for 1,000.00. The last 10.0 race I won 200.00 and it cost me 75.00 to enter,so for me 125.00 to win 3000.00 seems pretty good. I personally think that Josh and his crew did a great job and we will be at the next event he puts on.

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Re: Billy Glidden at the MMW fall ball [Re: qwkmopardan] #1310157
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Josh did the best he could with what he was given. The oil downs were the worst I've ever seen in my 20 years of racing. We actually had a pool going betting on oil downs.

I feel bad for the guy that got bumped from the Q32 door car because someone couldn't make a good pass on his 2 saturday qualifiers and got a special pass after the funny car. We couldn't figure out why it took so long to get the Q32 ladder and run first round. Well now we know.

So my only comment would be make a set of rules and stick by them. I don't think Josh has a "real set" of rules so over the long winter break he has plenty of time to figure out the direction he want the class to go. He knows he can't please everyone.

Let me bitchc and the others but once the rules are set everyone knows up front what to expect.

I thought the track did a great job cleaning after all the oil downs. I bet next time they buy a dump truck of oil absorbent

Thanks Josh and thank god I'm not a cool promoter like you:).

Re: Billy Glidden at the MMW fall ball [Re: PlumCrazyCharger] #1310158
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I just wanna say congrats too qwkmopardan for winning superpro sunday, and getting down too 4 cars in pro sunday. You will never meet a more die hard racer, or mopar guy than Dan Smith....congrats bro.

Re: Billy Glidden at the MMW fall ball [Re: HemiDart68] #1310159
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Probably the reason why just about every legal SS hemi car does not have a diaper.




Hey Matt how's it going man? I notice a lot of the HEMI cars have changed how their collectors are positioned under the car. Are belly pans the reason for that?

Wes


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Re: Billy Glidden at the MMW fall ball [Re: qwkmopardan] #1310160
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As a matter of fact I did not go for the free food as I thought as soon as I walked up to the PARTY area for food they would make the call for no-box to the lanes. Once the box/no-Box race was canceled the food was gone.




Ummm..... A quadriplegic could have rolled from where the food was served to the staging lanes in about 30 seconds. Free food, free race......quitcherbichin

Re: Billy Glidden at the MMW fall ball [Re: Pleaz] #1310161
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I just wanna say congrats too qwkmopardan for winning superpro sunday, and getting down too 4 cars in pro sunday. You will never meet a more die hard racer, or mopar guy than Dan Smith....congrats bro.



Re: Billy Glidden at the MMW fall ball [Re: EvilB1Dart] #1310162
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All this bitchin' and whinning, and for what? The man took time out of his personal life to give you guys something. Just be glad some MOPAR dude (Josh) gave you a new venue/place to meet old/new friends, bench race and a place to race if you brought a car. There is no such thing as a perfect event/race, especially when bad weather falls upon you, etc. Don't you think your positions or opinions would be better accepted/applied if you just simply PM'd or emailed Josh and gave him your constructive thoughts? Remember, before Josh you didn't have this event.......just let it go and look forward to NEXT YEAR!

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Re: Billy Glidden at the MMW fall ball [Re: EvilB1Dart] #1310163
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Probably the reason why just about every legal SS hemi car does not have a diaper.




Hey Matt how's it going man? I notice a lot of the HEMI cars have changed how their collectors are positioned under the car. Are belly pans the reason for that?

Wes




Hey Wes all is well man, good to hear from you. I noticed as well that the collectors are now directed more out the side as opposed to straight back. That is part of the problem i have also with the current big tube under chassis headers and the way it wraps around the factory suspension leave little room for making diapers work. I will check into the headers and see if that is the reason they are doing that. Thanks.

Re: Billy Glidden at the MMW fall ball [Re: qwkmopardan] #1310164
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Why??????????? So he could poke the whole Mopar crowd in the eye and make the fastest pass of the weekend????? He all-most succeeded if that was his goal. 4.01 at 185mph 1/8th mile in an adrl 10.5 tire car. 2nd only to the Lake Erie Monster dragster that went 3.79 at 186 mph.
I remember when his dad ran a Plymouth Arrow in pro stock and was allmost unbeatable with a Motor that by todays standards was just a mild bracket motor. If Billy G. would use his knowledge and resources and apply it to a Mopar he might have been able to make the fastest pass of the weekend.





Don't think you would have a problem with BobR's Ford (With a HEMI in it)
Only 3 runs on this combo at the time.. 4.25 @ 180mph On a 10.5 tire..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3idbdZtFVw0


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Re: Billy Glidden at the MMW fall ball [Re: HemiDart68] #1310165
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Russler made me one for my thru link pan. Not SFI super dooper but far better than nothing. $165, Fits very well. Two weeks ago a buddy mine broke a rod with a diaper. The track needed NO CLEAN-UP. Diaper contained it all. For myself I've got too much tied up in the car to risk wrecking if I can avoid it. $165 is a drop in the bucket.
Doug

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As a matter of fact I did not go for the free food as I thought as soon as I walked up to the PARTY area for food they would make the call for no-box to the lanes. Once the box/no-Box race was canceled the food was gone.




Ummm..... A quadriplegic could have rolled from where the food was served to the staging lanes in about 30 seconds. Free food, free race......quitcherbichin




Depending on what time you went up to the party for food there was a serious wait.

We waited in line just under an hour from start to finish. We got in line at 7 pm and got the food at just before 8 pm.

Some people got tired of waiting and left the line.

I'm not complaining, hey it was a free dinner with a band playing for entertainment.

I'm just stating that it would be tough for someone waiting for a class call to stand in line that long.
They weren't in the staging lanes they were in the pits waiting for the call.

I was already out of the Gamblers race by then (went to quick and broke out) so waiting around wasn't a problem for me.
After dinner it was time to break out the American Honey.

Dan is a serious racer and he's there to try to win the $$$$.

I know that if he could only try to win money on Sunday he's probably gonna race somewhere else on Saturday where he can try to win the $$$$ and just race Sunday at MMW.


Kayse can't keep up at all now. lol
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