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67 Dodge Dart inside door arm rest and door handle HELP #1307980 09/20/12 11:21 PM 09/20/12 11:21 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,506 Northern Pa G GLR OP master
GLR OP master G Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,506 Northern Pa	Hello, I am working on a 1967 Dodge Dart 2-door Hard top and I have the 10 point cage almost finished but I noticed something.....when I was sitting in the drivers seat and closed the door...I can't put the factory door arm rest base and pad on the door because it will hit the door brace. So..I know I am not the only one that has had this problem...so can anyone tell me what they did for an arm rest base for the inside door handle??? I am open for Suggestions? I want the car to look real good...so I want something that I can buy or make to make it look good when the door panel is installed. You can post here or send me an e-mail to; glr7069@ptd.net Thank you!

Re: 67 Dodge Dart inside door arm rest and door handle HELP [Re: GLR] #1307981 09/20/12 11:25 PM 09/20/12 11:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,266 Renton Washington T Triple Threat master
Triple Threat master T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,266 Renton Washington	I just left them off. I too wish there was something to grab, usually just roll the window down and use the top of the door or the wing window handle. 7388278-IMG_2089-1.jpg (137 downloads) -Dustin 67 Dart, 9 second, 392" G3 Hemi 68 Barracuda 340 F/SA

Re: 67 Dodge Dart inside door arm rest and door handle HELP [Re: GLR] #1307982 09/20/12 11:33 PM 09/20/12 11:33 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,456 Out West 4 408strokerdart master
408strokerdart master 4 Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,456 Out West	My door bars kick in in that area to clear the armrest. The X brace meets in about the same area, but it is fully functional and doesn't crowd me in the car at all.

Re: 67 Dodge Dart inside door arm rest and door handle HELP [Re: Triple Threat] #1307983 09/20/12 11:46 PM 09/20/12 11:46 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,506 Northern Pa G GLR OP master
GLR OP master G Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,506 Northern Pa	Yea..Triple Threat ,,,,The only thing I have thought of is using the pull straps that came on the Dodge Conversion vans (I had one at one time) they would work to pull the door shut, but the area around the actual door handle ..especially in back of the handle won't look very good unless I can find some sort of short door bezel that will fit?

Re: 67 Dodge Dart inside door arm rest and door handle HELP [Re: Triple Threat] #1307984 09/21/12 01:10 AM 09/21/12 01:10 AM
Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,415 Toronto M mshred master
mshred master M Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,415 Toronto	Quote: I just left them off. I too wish there was something to grab, usually just roll the window down and use the top of the door or the wing window handle. Dustin is that a custom cage or a kit?

Re: 67 Dodge Dart inside door arm rest and door handle HELP [Re: mshred] #1307985 09/21/12 02:00 AM 09/21/12 02:00 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,266 Renton Washington T Triple Threat master
Triple Threat master T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,266 Renton Washington	Matt, Kit from http://www.artmorrison.com/homepage2.php Moly I have thought about the strap, but i think they look cheesy. The bezel is the hard part. -Dustin 67 Dart, 9 second, 392" G3 Hemi 68 Barracuda 340 F/SA

Re: 67 Dodge Dart inside door arm rest and door handle HELP [Re: Triple Threat] #1307986 09/21/12 03:44 AM 09/21/12 03:44 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	I also left them off on my 63 and I want my interior to look as stock as I can keep it. I have thought about a strap but have not done it yet. I usually grab the vent window frame when closing the door when I am in the car. Ron Last edited by 383man; 09/22/12 08:36 AM.

Re: 67 Dodge Dart inside door arm rest and door handle HELP [Re: 383man] #1307987 09/21/12 04:52 AM 09/21/12 04:52 AM
Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,056 Mt.Vernon IL Twin Turbo Mower super stock
Twin Turbo Mower super stock Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,056 Mt.Vernon IL	My door bars bend in to accommodate them. Its hard to tell in my pic though. If you really had to take them to an upholstery guy who can cut the area out for you to clear the bars. 7388514-100_2561.JPG (123 downloads)

Re: 67 Dodge Dart inside door arm rest and door handle HELP [Re: Twin Turbo Mower] #1307988 09/21/12 06:30 AM 09/21/12 06:30 AM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,839 MI, usa dvw master
dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,839 MI, usa	I don't have a picture. Using a grinder I cut an angled notch in the arm rest. Then using sandpaper wrapped around a piece of scrap roll bar tube I sanded it to the correct shape of the bar. The armrest was then covered with Vinyl. Now the armrest is notched around the bar. Doug

Re: 67 Dodge Dart inside door arm rest and door handle HELP [Re: Triple Threat] #1307989 09/21/12 08:06 AM 09/21/12 08:06 AM
Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,415 Toronto M mshred master
mshred master M Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,415 Toronto	Quote: Matt, Kit from http://www.artmorrison.com/homepage2.php Moly I have thought about the strap, but i think they look cheesy. The bezel is the hard part. Thanks Dustin

Re: 67 Dodge Dart inside door arm rest and door handle HELP [Re: dvw] #1307990 09/21/12 10:12 AM 09/21/12 10:12 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,506 Northern Pa G GLR OP master
GLR OP master G Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,506 Northern Pa	DVW....Well, I thought of taking a 68-70 B-body arm rest base and cutting the center out of it and gluing it back together..but not sure yet. You have a good Idea that worked too. I was hoping that someone would have a real good idea and attach or send pictures of a nice looking door base...

Re: 67 Dodge Dart inside door arm rest and door handle HELP [Re: GLR] #1307991 09/21/12 10:52 AM 09/21/12 10:52 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	I assume the bars are already welded in... if so... cut them out and have bars made with a bend in them to go under the arm rest.. I'll get some pics today hold I did mine on the Rampage

Re: 67 Dodge Dart inside door arm rest and door handle HELP [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1307992 09/21/12 11:58 AM 09/21/12 11:58 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 642 New Jersey Craig mopar
Craig mopar Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 642 New Jersey	Here in the NE division the bars have to be straight or it will not certify, I saw a beautifully crafted cage by a pro fail for that reason, door bar was bent for clearance. Sounds like your bar is already in though, I would modify the arm rest as others have described. I was lucky in that mine fit just beneath the armrest, 1-5/8 MS bars in an X, tied to a rocker sill bar (see pic). 7388781-68dodgedart13resized.jpg (111 downloads) 67 Dart, 426 Hemi, 9.23/145mph, 3400lbs, footbraked, owned since 1982

Re: 67 Dodge Dart inside door arm rest and door handle HELP [Re: Craig] #1307993 09/21/12 12:12 PM 09/21/12 12:12 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Here in the NE division the bars have to be straight or it will not certify, I saw a beautifully crafted cage by a pro fail for that reason, door bar was bent for clearance. Sounds like your bar is already in though, I would modify the arm rest as others have described. I was lucky in that mine fit just beneath the armrest, 1-5/8 MS bars in an X, tied to a rocker sill bar (see pic). If you run a brace bar from the bend to the base of the main hoop it will pass.... I have seen a bent door bar pass also

Re: 67 Dodge Dart inside door arm rest and door handle HELP [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1307994 09/21/12 12:40 PM 09/21/12 12:40 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,506 Northern Pa G GLR OP master
GLR OP master G Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,506 Northern Pa	Well, I got a few old B body door arm rest bases and I have already cut one up to make one that will fit. I am not sure if I want to try and cut an old pad and use the factory hole in the base or not yet. It's either that or I come up with some sort of thing to pull the door closed...I thought I might go to Lowe's and get some ideas ??? and maybe go to a junk yard and start looking at some of the cars??

Re: 67 Dodge Dart inside door arm rest and door handle HELP [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1307995 09/21/12 03:43 PM 09/21/12 03:43 PM
Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,056 Mt.Vernon IL Twin Turbo Mower super stock
Twin Turbo Mower super stock Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,056 Mt.Vernon IL	I got my cage certified last month and he never said anything about the door bar being bent, but it only has a slight bend just enough to clear. He was only concerned about the door bar being spring loaded for the swingout portion, his boss said it was ok he seen them before.

Re: 67 Dodge Dart inside door arm rest and door handle HELP [Re: GLR] #1307996 09/21/12 06:05 PM 09/21/12 06:05 PM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,627 anywhere@ anytime A actionange top fuel
actionange top fuel A Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,627 anywhere@ anytime	Quote: Well, I got a few old B body door arm rest bases and I have already cut one up to make one that will fit. I am not sure if I want to try and cut an old pad and use the factory hole in the base or not yet. It's either that or I come up with some sort of thing to pull the door closed...I thought I might go to Lowe's and get some ideas ??? and maybe go to a junk yard and start looking at some of the cars?? I took an old 5 point harness crotch strap, removed the hardware from it and attached it to the driver door using that big screw (with a big washer) on the top metal surface. Make it long so you can reach it when strapped in...

Re: 67 Dodge Dart inside door arm rest and door handle HELP [Re: actionange] #1307997 09/21/12 06:17 PM 09/21/12 06:17 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 10,384 Upstate NY Bigcube I Live Here
Bigcube I Live Here Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 10,384 Upstate NY	Mine go behind it. Jim

Re: 67 Dodge Dart inside door arm rest and door handle HELP [Re: Bigcube] #1307998 09/21/12 11:06 PM 09/21/12 11:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,361 PA 7 70HemiGTX top fuel
70HemiGTX top fuel 7 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,361 PA	My arm rests squash the roll-bar padding, but bearly touch the bar itself. Don't know if you can see it in this picture or not. 7389533-DSCF0046.JPG (156 downloads)

Re: 67 Dodge Dart inside door arm rest and door handle HELP [Re: Craig] #1307999 09/21/12 11:19 PM 09/21/12 11:19 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa 1967dartgt master
1967dartgt master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa	Quote: Here in the NE division the bars have to be straight or it will not certify, I saw a beautifully crafted cage by a pro fail for that reason, door bar was bent for clearance. Sounds like your bar is already in though, I would modify the arm rest as others have described. I was lucky in that mine fit just beneath the armrest, 1-5/8 MS bars in an X, tied to a rocker sill bar (see pic). My door bars are bent and my cage cert just fine. Took it to the NHRA office on street road and had it certed in there parking lot. I have a x brace in my car that run right under my arm rests. Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads STR Chassis fabraction

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