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Re: Gen lll Hemi oil system mods [Re: 72Swinger] #1302377
09/17/13 08:05 AM
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So the 6.1 crank is proven to oil good up to 7500-8000 ok? When the Drag Pack first were speced out they said stock cranks?? Heres mine I was messin with last night.


He did say reworked, What ever that means but i doubt a 6.1 crank in stock form could do that.

Re: Gen lll Hemi oil system mods [Re: 540challenger] #1302378
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HHP told me that they have a bunch of them turning 7500@ over 1000hp on their turbo stuff.

I'm not sure where the whole "6.1L cranks can't turn RPM" came from. But the more people I actually talk to, the less I believe the moparts masses that preach it.

Re: Gen lll Hemi oil system mods [Re: dizuster] #1302379
09/17/13 10:30 AM
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I actually haven't heard it said about 6.1's , but have seen the results of the 5.7 cranks from Chapper.


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Re: Gen lll Hemi oil system mods [Re: dizuster] #1302380
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HHP told me that they have a bunch of them turning 7500@ over 1000hp on their turbo stuff.

I'm not sure where the whole "6.1L cranks can't turn RPM" came from. But the more people I actually talk to, the less I believe the moparts masses that preach it.




The mopar masses are preaching what David Barton says is the problem. Given his success with the Gen 3 hemi stuff, I would be inclined to listen.


-Dustin
67 Dart, 9 second, 392" G3 Hemi
68 Barracuda 340 F/SA
Re: Gen lll Hemi oil system mods [Re: SC304] #1302381
09/17/13 09:19 PM
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I currently run a NHRA SS 6.1 motor with the factory crank. It has been reworked and treated. I run a high volume pump with any of the K-1, Callie's or Molnar rods. I do run Jesel dog bone lifters and a cam over .800 lift with Jesel rockers. With these lifters which we modify we Run bushings to control oil up top. We spin 8200 to 8800 depending on gear / converter Combo. Been 9.35 @ 144 at 3400 lbs with no issues. We run a custom Moroso oil pan with a full kick out short of the K&N filter mounted in the stock location. We have also smoothed out the inlet and outlet on the filter mount.. I have not noticed any pin holes in the castings in the area of the filter but we have only ground on 6.1 blocks. Just my personal observations.




Thanks for the input.

Justin


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Re: Gen lll Hemi oil system mods [Re: 540challenger] #1302382
09/17/13 09:20 PM
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Reworked means rod journal turned down and then it is heat treated..

Re: Gen lll Hemi oil system mods [Re: Triple Threat] #1302383
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HHP told me that they have a bunch of them turning 7500@ over 1000hp on their turbo stuff.

I'm not sure where the whole "6.1L cranks can't turn RPM" came from. But the more people I actually talk to, the less I believe the moparts masses that preach it.




The mopar masses are preaching what David Barton says is the problem. Given his success with the Gen 3 hemi stuff, I would be inclined to listen.




x2...Barton says there is an issue, won't say what it is thought, masses are too scared to try and push the limits themselves when they are told there is an issue, and voila lol

Kinda sucks though that this info is not readily available or being shared...I mean really if this gen III hemi thing is going to ever take off other than in drag pak and in the LX platform cars, some info needs to be shared and the veil pulled off so to speak

Re: Gen lll Hemi oil system mods [Re: mshred] #1302384
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^^^ Well stated!


67 RO23 clone with 6.1 SRT Hemi and dual quads. Soon to have Drag Pak induction and Throttle body.
Re: Gen lll Hemi oil system mods [Re: mshred] #1302385
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HHP told me that they have a bunch of them turning 7500@ over 1000hp on their turbo stuff.

I'm not sure where the whole "6.1L cranks can't turn RPM" came from. But the more people I actually talk to, the less I believe the moparts masses that preach it.




The mopar masses are preaching what David Barton says is the problem. Given his success with the Gen 3 hemi stuff, I would be inclined to listen.




x2...Barton says there is an issue, won't say what it is thought, masses are too scared to try and push the limits themselves when they are told there is an issue, and voila lol

Kinda sucks though that this info is not readily available or being shared...I mean really if this gen III hemi thing is going to ever take off other than in drag pak and in the LX platform cars, some info needs to be shared and the veil pulled off so to speak




A Molnar crank and rods from Chuck Lofgren cured my oiling problems.
Motor is back out and running fine. Has over 200 laps of dirt tracking on it without any problems. Using the same belt driven Barnes oil pump set-up as before.


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Re: Gen lll Hemi oil system mods [Re: CHAPPER] #1302386
09/18/13 10:52 PM
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What is high rpm? 6500? 7700? 8800?

Call Molnar and he would be glad to explain your high rpm oiling issues with a stock 6.1 crank. He was very helpful with me.

I am guessing most on here do not need his crank, unless you plan on spinning it harder than say 7500. (Assuming you are staying with stock stroke)

A stocker or super stocker wanting to spin high rpm would benefit from having the crank he manufactures.

With all this said, I am going to be keeping a stock 6.1 crank turned down, but it would be nice to have the Molnar crank.

Justin


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