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4 or 5 speed #1295034 09/01/12 12:41 PM 09/01/12 12:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 511 florida dade C cesar perez OP mopar
cesar perez OP mopar C Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 511 florida dade	to all the stickshift guys what would be a better choice a 4spd or 5 speed for drag racing

Re: 4 or 5 speed [Re: cesar perez] #1295035 09/01/12 01:09 PM 09/01/12 01:09 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 21,345 Marysville, O-H-I-O 70Cuda383 Too Many Posts
70Cuda383 Too Many Posts Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 21,345 Marysville, O-H-I-O	I have a 5-spd. Never get out of 4th in the 1/4 mile. Buddy had a Dakota with a 6-spd T-56. Again, never get past 4th I don't think you want to be using an OD in a drag race. Even the 4 and 5 spd autos never get past the 1:1 gear Photobucket sucks

Re: 4 or 5 speed [Re: 70Cuda383] #1295036 09/01/12 01:13 PM 09/01/12 01:13 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 21,345 Marysville, O-H-I-O 70Cuda383 Too Many Posts
70Cuda383 Too Many Posts Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 21,345 Marysville, O-H-I-O	I'd have to do the math again, but I think 6000 rpm in 4th gear is well over 100 mph (I want to say close to 115-120) in my truck. 3.92 gears, 27-28" tires. Even I my old big block truck with a TKO and 4.56 gears, never got past 4th, and I was trapping at 107 Photobucket sucks

Re: 4 or 5 speed [Re: 70Cuda383] #1295037 09/01/12 01:17 PM 09/01/12 01:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN A ahy master
ahy master A Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN	For drag race only agree 4 speeds is plenty. If you want to street drive, an OD 5'th gear is really nice to get the revs, noise, wear and fuel consumption down though.

Re: 4 or 5 speed [Re: cesar perez] #1295038 09/01/12 03:23 PM 09/01/12 03:23 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: to all the stickshift guys what would be a better choice a 4spd or 5 speed for drag racing If you have a tight torque curve and power level you would want a 5 speed to keep it in the range but if its wide the 4 speed.... look at pro stocks EDIT I'm not talking a OD 5 speed Last edited by MR_P_BODY; 09/01/12 06:51 PM.

Re: 4 or 5 speed [Re: cesar perez] #1295039 09/01/12 03:46 PM 09/01/12 03:46 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,708 S. Il. U.S.A. 5spdcuda top fuel
5spdcuda top fuel Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,708 S. Il. U.S.A.	As you can guess from my user name I have a 5-speed which is the best choice for me and how I use the car. For drag racing I would stick with a 4-speed. A well prepped 833 will shift faster and you will never get past 4 th. gear with any realistic rear end gears.

Re: 4 or 5 speed [Re: cesar perez] #1295040 09/01/12 06:13 PM 09/01/12 06:13 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,554 Rittman Ohio fourgearsavoy I Live Here
fourgearsavoy I Live Here Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,554 Rittman Ohio	Now are you talking 4 speed overdrive or a true 5 speed like a Richmond or Doug Nash If you have a heavy car or narrow torque curve go with a 5-speed. Now if you have enough stones that the gear changes don't drag the engine down too much go with a 4 speed. I like my 5-speed because the engine stays up in the happy range all the way down the track Gus 7360495-mysavoy.jpg (71 downloads) 64 Plymouth Savoy 493 Indy EZ's by Nick at Compu-Flow 5-Speed Richmond faceplate Liberty box Dana 60

Re: 4 or 5 speed [Re: fourgearsavoy] #1295041 09/05/12 11:51 AM 09/05/12 11:51 AM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 128 New Haven County CT Mr 5 Speed member
Mr 5 Speed member Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 128 New Haven County CT	Couldn't agree more. GForce GF5-R 5 Speed and the clutch gets stepped everytime for me. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7528903995676743423&hl=en

Re: 4 or 5 speed [Re: Mr 5 Speed] #1295042 09/06/12 01:18 AM 09/06/12 01:18 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 269 Kansas wishing I was in Ohio S SeanD enthusiast
SeanD enthusiast S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 269 Kansas wishing I was in Ohio	4 spd video link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXHEr2NNM70 enjoy

Re: 4 or 5 speed [Re: SeanD] #1295043 09/06/12 08:57 PM 09/06/12 08:57 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,243 Charlotte, North Carolina sgcuda master
sgcuda master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,243 Charlotte, North Carolina	I run a Liberty prepped 833 in my Cuda. I really wish I could upgrade to a 5 speed. Even in a 9 second run, it seems like it takes forever for the engine to wind up for the next gear change. I like the 2.65 first gear, but I would like a little higher 2nd, a little lower 3rd, and one more in between. [image][/image]

Re: 4 or 5 speed [Re: sgcuda] #1295044 09/06/12 09:38 PM 09/06/12 09:38 PM
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OhioMopar master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,779 Mt.Gilead, Ohio	In my 2010 Challenger I never got out of 4th. 3.73 gear. I would think a 4 speed would be plenty. 1969 Dart GTS 340 1969 Super Bee X9 N-96 1969 Coronet R/T X9 N-96 2015 Dodge Dart GT 2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn. Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449

Re: 4 or 5 speed [Re: OhioMopar] #1295045 09/06/12 09:56 PM 09/06/12 09:56 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,608 Indiana EV2DEMON The Camaro Kid
EV2DEMON The Camaro Kid Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,608 Indiana	Quote: In my 2010 Challenger I never got out of 4th. 3.73 gear. I would think a 4 speed would be plenty. Again, some of you guys are taking the question out of context. There's a big difference between a street type 5-speed where 4th = 1:1 and 5th = O.D., and a racing trans like a Liberty, Jerico, Nash, ETC that has a 1:1 5th gear and closer ratios in the 1-4 range

Re: 4 or 5 speed [Re: sgcuda] #1295046 09/07/12 09:31 PM 09/07/12 09:31 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,554 Rittman Ohio fourgearsavoy I Live Here
fourgearsavoy I Live Here Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,554 Rittman Ohio	Quote: I run a Liberty prepped 833 in my Cuda. I really wish I could upgrade to a 5 speed. Even in a 9 second run, it seems like it takes forever for the engine to wind up for the next gear change. I like the 2.65 first gear, but I would like a little higher 2nd, a little lower 3rd, and one more in between. These are my ratios, 3.28 2.13 1.57 1.24 1.00 and it feels perfect to me and it may be up on the market come spring Gus 7369311-savoyburnout.jpg (63 downloads) 64 Plymouth Savoy 493 Indy EZ's by Nick at Compu-Flow 5-Speed Richmond faceplate Liberty box Dana 60

Re: 4 or 5 speed [Re: EV2DEMON] #1295047 09/08/12 09:09 AM 09/08/12 09:09 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 21,345 Marysville, O-H-I-O 70Cuda383 Too Many Posts
70Cuda383 Too Many Posts Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 21,345 Marysville, O-H-I-O	Quote: Quote: In my 2010 Challenger I never got out of 4th. 3.73 gear. I would think a 4 speed would be plenty. Again, some of you guys are taking the question out of context. There's a big difference between a street type 5-speed where 4th = 1:1 and 5th = O.D., and a racing trans like a Liberty, Jerico, Nash, ETC that has a 1:1 5th gear and closer ratios in the 1-4 range Right. I ASSuMEd the original poster was asking about "833 vs TKO" type transmissions, i.e. a 4-spd with 1:1 as final or a TKO with .64:1 as the final gear. Didn't realize he was asking about a racing 5-spd that was close ratio with a final gear of 1:1 Question though, if your motor has a flat torque curve from 3000-6000 rpm, do you really need a close ratio gearbox? or would fewer gears, with less time spent "shifting" be better? or do you still see a benefit of running 5500-6000 rpm the whole pass vs 4500-6000? Photobucket sucks

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