Engine runs 15F cooler after oilchange (10w40 to 5w30)
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08/26/12 07:30 PM
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I changed the oil this week in my daily heap, the '73 Dart. I went from a regular dino 10w40 (with some ATF mixed in over time) to a synth. blend 5w30. Both oils were rated API SL.
Decided that even in the summer, the oilpressure was good enough to warrant a thinner oil in the engine.
First thing I noticed the oil pressure was pretty much the same as before; Oil pressure is 60-65psi cold idling and cruisin, and between 35-40 psi hot idling in Drive.
Most interesting however was the watertemperature. Normally the engine runs at 160-170F, but now since the oil change, the temp hardly gets over 150F anymore in and around town. Only on the highway the temp climbs back to 170, but that's because the radiator is pretty scaled up inside. (There is a 160F thermostat in the system.)
Does the newer oil take up engine heat that much better so it runs 15F cooler, or does the engine feel that much less friction and drag of the previous oil? Or both? I haven't got a tach in the car so I can't say for sure the engine runs faster now. But during cold morning starts, I does 'feel' (while driving off), as if the engine is already 'warm' and the oil is thin. It accelerates a bit smoother.
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Re: Engine runs 15F cooler after oilchange (10w40 to 5w30)
[Re: BigBlockMopar]
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08/26/12 09:47 PM
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i have always heard the opposite of what you found. sounds interesting enough to give it a try though
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Re: Engine runs 15F cooler after oilchange (10w40 to 5w30)
[Re: Thumperdart]
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08/27/12 12:36 PM
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i have been taught to keep the engine 180 .. you may run better ..
Some yes but not all............Jason Pettis used to set up Dougs motors to run real cold as in pushed to the line, fired up, burn out and 6-second et`s cold. Older carb equipted cars definately ran better warmed up especially if they were rich and todays car can literally be jumped in and thrashed.........see it everyday w/some people but I warm EVERYTHING up I own.........new or not.
I guess i just figured that the OP's car was a street car . I guess theres no doubt you make more power with a cold engine .. When drag racing..
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Re: Engine runs 15F cooler after oilchange (10w40 to 5w30)
[Re: sogtx]
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08/27/12 12:45 PM
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Since I went to aluminum heads on my Dart and truck, I have to be at 180 when I leave the line. 160 or lower and it will lose a tenth. The dyno confirmed that on the truck engine as well. It was down almost 15 horsepower at 160 degrees compared to 180. Both pulls were with the oil temp at 160.
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Re: Engine runs 15F cooler after oilchange (10w40 to 5w30)
[Re: BigBlockMopar]
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08/27/12 01:11 PM
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I would think with the heavier oil you were working the engine harder... driving the oil pump and the added force on all the bearing with heavy oil...you have to press the pedal a touch harder which is fuel which is temp.... but I wouldnt have guessed 15*...I picked up a bit when I changed to syn oil.... JMO
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Re: Engine runs 15F cooler after oilchange (10w40 to 5w30)
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08/28/12 12:31 PM
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That's not correct. In the oil world, base stocks are defined by their "Group number". Petroleum oils start out with Group II or III, while synthetics start out with either Group IV, polyalphaolefins, or Group V, which is composed of many different types of base stock that had no place elsewhere. "Oil Base Stocks www.zddplus.com/TechBrief10%20-%20Oil%20Base%20Stocks.pdf · PDF file" Synthetics have a flatter viscosity curve per temperature, so they need less Viscosity Index improver or none at all. VI improvers have a tendency to shear and lower the viscosity at higher oil temps, which in the '80s led to engine failures. R.
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