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The cost of older cars #1274995
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Lately I've really been digging these older street rods, traditional style rods and rat rods. Almost to the point where I've considered buying one. But damn!!! I can't get over how much these things go for!! Has it always been like this?!?!?! I'm talking PROJECTS for around 10K and up!!! I guess I won't be picking one up anytime soon. I envy you guys with these awesome older street rods. It makes us A body guys look like children!

Re: The cost of older cars [Re: mopowers] #1274996
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I hear ya'. I'd love to get a '35-'36 Plymouth but the parts are

Harley/Hemi high.

Re: The cost of older cars [Re: Dan Halen] #1274997
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It's getting tougher to find deals, but they are still out there.
I will say that when looking at mopars, you want the absolute best, most complete one you can find. The missing parts is what will kill you.
Oh, and rust. Not many repair panels available out there.
What are you looking for? 30s, 40s, sedan, coupe, already built, stock, partially rodded?

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I'm looking for a 30's coupe. Something that's already hotrodded. Rough is ok with me too as long as it's a runner. Something like this: (I know it's not a Mopar- but I think it's badass)

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/3148652392.html

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Re: The cost of older cars [Re: RodStRace] #1275000
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7 years ago when i started looking for a street rod project i could not believe the prices either. i looked at quite a few cars, some of them were really rough. i found this 47 desoto, it was not running and was last inspected in 1975. the paint was sanded off long ago and was completly covered in rust. not much rust through though. interior was trashed too. but it was complete. i paid $1600 for it.


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i think if i was a california guy i would hang out at the entrance to an auto crusher with $1000 in my pocket waiting for the right car--there are alot of guys hauling in Bounty cars that would rather sell them to a private party than have them crushed---one of my friends saw a 57 savoy 2 door wagon coming down the road--waved the guy over and bought it for $300+bounty...those guys sitting on overvalued hulks when pressured by zoning compliance send the cars in for the bounty===they are wishing they remembered the phone numbers of the previous guys that had stopped by wanting to buy and just give up...

Re: The cost of older cars [Re: RodStRace] #1275002
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It's getting tougher to find deals, but they are still out there.
I will say that when looking at mopars, you want the absolute best, most complete one you can find. The missing parts is what will kill you.
Oh, and rust. Not many repair panels available out there.
What are you looking for? 30s, 40s, sedan, coupe, already built, stock, partially rodded?


. You turned me onto my 37, $2500.00 later it was mine


69.5 A12 Bee, first purchased in 1976, car 169 on registry 69 Coronet R/T 440/4 spd 69 Coronet 500 Conv H code 383 4bbl/auto 37 Plymouth PU Find your spot on earth and ride it.
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Re: The cost of older cars [Re: rrbrucea] #1275004
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30s cars are the most sought after of any brand,,,

sedans are easier and cheaper then coupes,,, some early 50 51 52 mopars can be made to look good and can be had cheap,,good luck in your search dont give up


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Something like these would be really cool. I still can't get over how much these things are bringing. It doesn't seem like there are that many parts to these things... Have these old ford coupes always been this pricey? Are dodge coupes in the same price range??


http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/3180476963.html

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/3148652392.html

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Re: The cost of older cars [Re: mopowers] #1275006
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Have these old ford coupes always been this pricey?



Fords have always been more popular, and always commanded a higher price.
Model As (28-31) were the last bastion of cheap in Fords. The whole retro or rat thing has driven them up too now.
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Are dodge coupes in the same price range??




No. However a 1931 Dodge is going to require a lot of work and scrounging, unless you find a great example.
Again, the retro thing has been driven prices up, but more cars are being built out of off-brands. If that's what you want, hang out at HAMB, killbillet, and other sites that cater to this style. When you have cash and are ready to deal, step up and ask for what you want!

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As for the "not many parts to these things", well, they have to have steering, suspension, drivetrain, electrical, body, seats, windshield and brakes.
The T-bucket is probably the most basic and elemental car, and those kits are getting expensive too.
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/T-Bucket-Kits.html
You can save some money by scrounging and building yourself, but all those elements must be there and look right. You can't just buy a Dakota, tear off the body and slap a 34 Dodge PU shell on the chassis. It doesn't look right.
EXAMPLE
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...rue#Post7319099

Here's a Model A build
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=482087

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Have these old ford coupes always been this pricey?



Fords have always been more popular, and always commanded a higher price.
Model As (28-31) were the last bastion of cheap in Fords. The whole retro or rat thing has driven them up too now.
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Are dodge coupes in the same price range??




No. However a 1931 Dodge is going to require a lot of work and scrounging, unless you find a great example.
Again, the retro thing has been driven prices up, but more cars are being built out of off-brands. If that's what you want, hang out at HAMB, killbillet, and other sites that cater to this style. When you have cash and are ready to deal, step up and ask for what you want!




Is this "retro" hotrod thing a fad that you see going away soon?? I'm 30 and have always been into mopar muscle cars so this era of cars is new to me. I always remember seeing 30's traditional style hotrods at Goodguys events when I was younger, but I guess I never really noticed the pricing on them. I wonder if the prices will come down a little when the whole retro rod fad dies down a little.

I've definitely got cash. I guess at this point though, I've still got sticker shock. But what they say?? You only live once??

Re: The cost of older cars [Re: mopowers] #1275009
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It's like any other hobby, stuff ebbs and flows.

Will you be able to buy a bare bones rod for under 10K any time soon?
Only if the cost of everything else skyrockets and all the other guys that would buy-in at that price are not in the market. Think Mopar clones in the past 10 years. Only now can you touch one for less than it took to build.

Are they at a peak now?
They are still near cost of materials without scrounging. That's typically the price modified cars sell for, except race cars, which are almost always pennies on the dollar. They may come down some more as the next big thing hits, but won't be as popular. Consider the typical 80's dechromed pastel painted rod. They look funny in today's scene and are worth less than a more traditional car that was built at the same time.
One of those would be a cheap way to get into the rodding world, if you can live with that look.

Re: The cost of older cars [Re: RodStRace] #1275010
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Just wait 10 years and they will be MUCH cheaper, that is when I am going to buy one... Plus I will be old enough by then to look like I built it!

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Something like these would be really cool. I still can't get over how much these things are bringing. It doesn't seem like there are that many parts to these things... Have these old ford coupes always been this pricey? Are dodge coupes in the same price range??


http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/3180476963.html

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/3148652392.html




one posting looks like it was deleted,,but the model A looks a little bare bones to me,,,seems like a very high price,,ide be thinking 12 g,,,


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Re: The cost of older cars [Re: fstfish66] #1275012
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Any Ford coupe between 1928 and 1939 is going to bring big money unless its junk. Fords are generally 2x to 3x as high as a comparable "other" car. That said, nothing built in the late 20s or through the 30s is going to be cheap unless it has issues or the owner is in a bind. On the rare occasions something decent at a good price shows up, you have to jump on it fast or someone with money will buy it to flip for fast cash, at the going rate.

Most of the decent stuff showing up these days is something someone saved a long time ago and has decided to sell it off for whatever reason. Often the first guy to "find it" gets a deal, and the price progresses with each sale until someone actually buys it to build.

The cheapest way to buy into pre 50 something cars is to buy an unfinished project, all you have to do is be the first guy to stumble onto it. Gene

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Still can't get over how much people want for this stuff!!!

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=723406

I'd love to find an early dodge runner somewhere.

Re: The cost of older cars [Re: mopowers] #1275014
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Well, '34 Fords are always gonna be WAY expensive. Right there with the '32s. That's the way that's always been...

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