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Dry hops ? #1271792 07/22/12 03:30 AM 07/22/12 03:30 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 110 E EJ440 OP member
EJ440 OP member E Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 110	Why did we stop ?

Re: Dry hops ? [Re: EJ440] #1271793 07/22/12 03:46 AM 07/22/12 03:46 AM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY HEMIFRED master
HEMIFRED master Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY	dry hops came after the real burnout. it was proven to be more harm than good The 1st hit of the throttle is when the tires will hook the best, so if you dry hop you just took that 1st hit & wasted it instead of using it to launch your car. home of the Sox and Martin Hemi Duster

Re: Dry hops ? [Re: HEMIFRED] #1271794 07/22/12 08:38 AM 07/22/12 08:38 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,330 Lynchburg, VA Leon441 master
Leon441 master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,330 Lynchburg, VA	I agree 100% Plus why take the chance in tearing something up for nothing. Leon Career best 8.02 @ 169 at 3050# and 10" tires small block power.

Re: Dry hops ? [Re: Leon441] #1271795 07/22/12 11:43 AM 07/22/12 11:43 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 684 St. Charles, MO. S Slingshot383 mopar
Slingshot383 mopar S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 684 St. Charles, MO.	Tire technology, track prep, clutch technology all changed the before staging procedures. 1994 Undercover Chassis 125" altered stack injected big block, soon blown and injected Member of The Torque and Recoil Club

Re: Dry hops ? [Re: Slingshot383] #1271796 07/22/12 11:47 AM 07/22/12 11:47 AM
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pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,181 PA.	They sure were fun. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: Dry hops ? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1271797 07/22/12 12:08 PM 07/22/12 12:08 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,555 Rittman Ohio fourgearsavoy I Live Here
fourgearsavoy I Live Here Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,555 Rittman Ohio	Some of us still do them at the stick shift races because the fans love them,and isn't that what we do this for 7302829-mysavoy.jpg (51 downloads) 64 Plymouth Savoy 493 Indy EZ's by Nick at Compu-Flow 5-Speed Richmond faceplate Liberty box Dana 60

Re: Dry hops ? [Re: EJ440] #1271798 07/22/12 12:13 PM 07/22/12 12:13 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	If you talk to any tire manufacturer they will tell you that after the burn out to move to the line as quick as possible... as said already... why take the chance of breaking something for nothing... I've seen people do 2 or 3 dry hops and in some cases they never made it to the line due to breakage (plus I always thought it was just DUMB)... the burnout is for 2 reasons... clean the tire and put heat in it and the longer you hang around the heat dissipates

Re: Dry hops ? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1271799 07/22/12 12:51 PM 07/22/12 12:51 PM
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JAKE68 pro stock J Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,495 Shelby mi.	By doing dry hops you are using up all the sticky you just put into the tire plus you put in a ton of heat into the sidewalls. JAKES AUTOMOTIVE

Re: Dry hops ? [Re: JAKE68] #1271800 07/22/12 01:02 PM 07/22/12 01:02 PM
Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 158 Louisiana R Red440 member
Red440 member R Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 158 Louisiana	as well as producing a lot of heat into the converter and trans fluid.

Re: Dry hops ? [Re: Red440] #1271801 07/22/12 01:13 PM 07/22/12 01:13 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,495 Shelby mi. J JAKE68 pro stock
JAKE68 pro stock J Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,495 Shelby mi.	I remember when I used to do dry hops with my old race car high 11,low 12 sec car. Then got my 64 ply and came out of the water did a dry hop and stood it up and came down not knowing I smashed the pan and locked up the motor next run. No more dry hops. Last edited by JAKE68; 07/22/12 01:15 PM. JAKES AUTOMOTIVE

Re: Dry hops ? [Re: JAKE68] #1271802 07/22/12 02:12 PM 07/22/12 02:12 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,183 Park Forest, IL slantzilla Too Many Posts
slantzilla Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,183 Park Forest, IL	John Hazzelrig was the king of the dry hops at Motion with his '69 Roadrunner. He'd do a huge burnout, then do 4 dry hops, and clear the motor out twice after each one. First guy I remember not doing a dry hop was Fred Catlin with his C/SA buick back in the mid '80's. He'd do a good burnout and roll up to the stage light without ever clearing the motor out or anything. He'd bump it in and it would almost drag the back bumper when it left. Never did another dry hop after that. "Everybody funny, now you funny too."

Re: Dry hops ? [Re: slantzilla] #1271803 07/22/12 04:53 PM 07/22/12 04:53 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 904 cleveland Ohio M mloboda super stock
mloboda super stock M Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 904 cleveland Ohio	I often still do dry hops and I haven't seen an increase in my 60 foots because of it, so I'm skeptical about the theory of "using up the sticky" in the tires after the burnout. Granted, it's hard on parts and doesn't improve performance but they are fun to do and the spectators love it. If I was worried about breaking stuff, I wouldn't be drag racing and I sure wouldn't be driving a stick car.

Re: Dry hops ? [Re: fourgearsavoy] #1271804 07/22/12 05:46 PM 07/22/12 05:46 PM
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sdaurity pro stock S Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1,238 North Cackilacky	Quote: Some of us still do them at the stick shift races because the fans love them,and isn't that what we do this for You might do something for the fans enjoyment but def not everyone. I could give 2 $hits about impressing someone. I do this for me. FTW One day I will have something cool here.

Re: Dry hops ? [Re: mloboda] #1271805 07/22/12 06:00 PM 07/22/12 06:00 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 611 Muncie R Racebuddy mopar
Racebuddy mopar R Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 611 Muncie	Once in a while I can come out of the burnout box weird and feel like maybe one tire didn't get lit up well. I will bark them once again before staging. I really like to burn out mildly and get it to the line.

Re: Dry hops ? [Re: Racebuddy] #1271806 07/22/12 07:17 PM 07/22/12 07:17 PM
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tubtar master Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,082 St. Paul , Mn.	My understanding is that when you do the burn out the heat brings up a substance up from the tire that enhances traction......I heard it described as " oils " , but what ever it is , you scrub it off with the dry hop. Heat them , stage it and go to work.

Re: Dry hops ? [Re: sdaurity] #1271807 07/22/12 09:03 PM 07/22/12 09:03 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,555 Rittman Ohio fourgearsavoy I Live Here
fourgearsavoy I Live Here Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,555 Rittman Ohio	Quote: Quote: Some of us still do them at the stick shift races because the fans love them,and isn't that what we do this for You might do something for the fans enjoyment but def not everyone. I could give 2 $hits about impressing someone. I do this for me. FTW Well I race for fun and enjoyment some folks just do it for the money When you go to a stick-shift race there are actually fans that come to watch "real" real race cars not something that can be controlled with a radio in the stands Bravo with your "no-hop" stance I hope you win every round Gus 7303519-savoyburnout.jpg (27 downloads) 64 Plymouth Savoy 493 Indy EZ's by Nick at Compu-Flow 5-Speed Richmond faceplate Liberty box Dana 60

Re: Dry hops ? [Re: sdaurity] #1271808 07/22/12 10:16 PM 07/22/12 10:16 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 904 cleveland Ohio M mloboda super stock
mloboda super stock M Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 904 cleveland Ohio	Quote: You might do something for the fans enjoyment but def not everyone. I could give 2 $hits about impressing someone. I do this for me. FTW Not specifically trying to impress anyone, just bring a smile to the spectators faces. When the spectators smile, I smile.

Re: Dry hops ? [Re: mloboda] #1271809 07/22/12 11:41 PM 07/22/12 11:41 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 375 NW Minnesota M Maximus_Wedges enthusiast
Maximus_Wedges enthusiast M Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 375 NW Minnesota	Quote: Quote: You might do something for the fans enjoyment but def not everyone. I could give 2 $hits about impressing someone. I do this for me. FTW Not specifically trying to impress anyone, just bring a smile to the spectators faces. When the spectators smile, I smile. Not a dry Hop but a crowd pleaser. The fans realy enjoyed all my dzus fastners riping out of my fiberglass hood last year at the 990' mark. Made every one smile except me.

Re: Dry hops ? [Re: EJ440] #1271810 07/22/12 11:59 PM 07/22/12 11:59 PM
Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 36 tennessee M mike54 member
mike54 member M Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 36 tennessee	stopped?...i thought it was part of drivin a stick car..lol

Re: Dry hops ? [Re: mike54] #1271811 07/23/12 02:12 AM 07/23/12 02:12 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	When I started bracket racing back in the late 70's with my 340 four speed Dart it was the normal thing at that time. So I would do just one and I figured it was to see how the tires are hooking and make sure no water is on them from the wheelwells. I did not know any better at that time but when I heard the first launch after heating the tires is the best I started doing like everyone does now with no dry hops. I gotta admit it was kinda cool to see a car pop a small wheelie and then stage. Ron Last edited by 383man; 07/23/12 02:13 AM.

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