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Re: destroyed another bb-powerglide flexpate again ideas??
[Re: mopdragster]
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06/25/12 12:33 PM
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Well threw the ring gear off another 8 bolt flexplate for powerglide friday at tulsa divional race. broke the starter and cut a groove in the ATI bellhousing and threw it through the side of the car. So that makes 3 JW's and 2 TCI's. I am looking for input on this problem am probably going to order a new billet miezere flexplate. I have had this problem for several years through different motors and cars so I think it is a flexplate runout issue cause it always breaks the ring gear off. Anybody else have this trouble?
I've been using the JW deal for 12 years with no problems. I would suggest to have somebody chuck the flywheel that broke on a brake lathe. Be sure that's what the problem is. I would also index your JW bell housing bolted to the motor with a dial indicator and be sure your dowels are lined up correctly. Good luck.
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Re: destroyed another bb-powerglide flexpate again ideas??
[Re: mopdragster]
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06/25/12 12:35 PM
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had TCI toss a hunk of the gear when standing next to the car. it broke my foot in 6 places.
that one did not have enough weld when inspected.otherwise 10 years no problems with JW. now have a billet on my big motor
Last edited by HEMIFRED; 06/25/12 12:37 PM.
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Re: destroyed another bb-powerglide flexpate again ideas??
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06/25/12 12:55 PM
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I lost a chunk of a TCI last year at the final divisional race of the year. About the size of the onne Fred posted. Looks just like the one he posted. It was a TCI. Never had an issues with a JW. I woudl check the bell to make sure it is correctly installed as well.
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Re: destroyed another bb-powerglide flexpate again ideas??
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06/25/12 01:40 PM
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Never broke a ring on my two JW wheels. That is not saying it couldn't happen next time it is used.
I took exception to the starter engagement and all the shims required to do it the way JW instructed. Ended up using a 1/4" midplate to allow the trans to be further back in the car. Then I made another flywheel adapter for both 6 and 8 bolt cranks sense I had both. These flywheel adapters I made 1/4" thicker than the one from JW. I was able to get rid of 1/4" inch worth of starter shims. I now have a one peice solid shim for the starter. Just for info I still have the nose spacer on the starter but it is snug in the bell.
Don't know if this makes any difference whatsoever in keeping the starter ring on the gear. Another issue.. I had two ultrabells one had the bolt pattern right for the starter. The other one cocks the starter and breaks the nose on the starter. Had to weld the hole up and relocate, JW said there couldn't possibly be anything wrong because it was done on a CNC. BS if the bell slips in the jig it gets off. Stuff happens.
Might want to try another bell.
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Re: destroyed another bb-powerglide flexpate again ideas??
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06/25/12 02:07 PM
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Put an ATI adapter and plate on it and forget about it....
I have ran glides behind small blocks and big blocks for 20 years and never, not once has one failed.
Just have to make sure the converter pilot and clearance spacing is correct.
I am using it with a ultrabell behind a big block.
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Re: destroyed another bb-powerglide flexpate again ideas??
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12 volt or 16 volt battery? how much compression? if you broke a started and flex plate I would say you are low on battery.If its bucking the starter you will brake a fly wheel and the starter its just a matter of time. if you have a 12 volt system go to a 16 volt and problem fixed.
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Re: destroyed another bb-powerglide flexpate again ideas??
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06/25/12 05:09 PM
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I have never been able to use any brand out of the box. Everyone took some typer of change in spacers to get starter correct. Some even use the flywheel first against trhe crank then the converter hub adapter. Others do that in reverse. each needs different spacing plus the installers often reverse the parts as instructed. The only flywheel starter problems I have had were from using a timing retard MSD box. Hemi motor do not like to start at 10 degress advance
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Re: destroyed another bb-powerglide flexpate again ideas??
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06/25/12 05:27 PM
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12 volt or 16 volt battery? how much compression? if you broke a started and flex plate I would say you are low on battery.If its bucking the starter you will brake a fly wheel and the starter its just a matter of time. if you have a 12 volt system go to a 16 volt and problem fixed.  I run a JW Bell no problem breaking it but was breaking starters switch to a 16 volt solved problem. PS take a screw driver and push your starter pinion up into the flex plate,make sure its going in straight and the proper distance into the starter ring.
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Re: destroyed another bb-powerglide flexpate again ideas??
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06/25/12 05:31 PM
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WOW---i just had the same thing happen to mine fri night--same pix as freds.TCI 149182 B1 motor w/PG--i've had it in the car 3 years,it broke a 4" sec of teeth off,between the welds.ordered a new one.
i run a 16 volt sys.it does "buck" every once in a while.
that happening--kept me from racing sat.
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Re: destroyed another bb-powerglide flexpate again ideas??
[Re: mopdragster]
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06/25/12 05:57 PM
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mine is the same as your rossio. 16 volts starts at 25 degrees 36 total never kicks back with 16v on gas. Used to kick back with the tunnel ram I blamed that on the last 3 flywheels. this one has never been kicked back against once. I'll never buy another part from jw. I have 3 broken "wheels" and the guy I borrowed one from to finish the race had 2 in his trailer. I am gonna order a meizere and try that. It has no welds and is machined from a single piece of billet.
When you order it, ask for Jerry D. He helped me out and was very knowledgable.
I still need some info about my crank before I can order mine.
$500-800 for the peice. As DusterDave says, Buy once, cry once.
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Re: destroyed another bb-powerglide flexpate again ideas??
[Re: mopdragster]
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06/25/12 05:59 PM
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WWWWOOOOOOOO i just saw that meizere flexplate fp30608--man $483.00 my 149182 tci for $196.00 looks good for now--if it breaks again--i will buy the meizere 30608 
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