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2 questions: How do I know when shifter is in neutral position? I can get a rod through the shifter housing and 1/2, 3/4 levers but not the reverse lever. This is a factory hurst shifter rebuilt by Hurst (Mr Gasket) in Cleveland a few years ago. Please verify transmission neutral position: top two levers 1/2, 3/4 in middle position and reverse in forward position. Is this correct? Puting everything back together in 69 GTX. All parts are original to car. Thanks

Re: 833 shifter linkage adjustment [Re: frank] #1227409
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1) Rod should go through all three levers and housing
2) It doesn't matter, the rod is the defining variable


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OEM shifters DON'T have the hole through the reverse plate (at least the ones that I have seen). Adjust the forward gears and eyeball the reverse plate to the same position.

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Clarification. I am holding an OEM shifter in my hands. The 1-2 and 3-4 shift levers have a hole through them. The reverse lever goes toward the front and has what appears to be half a hole (notch)on the rear edge of the reverse lever. The adjustment rod goes completely through the shifter and is indexed on both sides of the shifter housing.


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Thanks all. Neutral position for reverse on trans is forward position??

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Thanks all. Neutral position for reverse on trans is forward position??




Yes it is.


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Clarification. I am holding an OEM shifter in my hands. The 1-2 and 3-4 shift levers have a hole through them. The reverse lever goes toward the front and has what appears to be half a hole (notch)on the rear edge of the reverse lever. The adjustment rod goes completely through the shifter and is indexed on both sides of the shifter housing.




What year is your shifter box , prior to 1970 the reverse lever in the OEM factory installed Hurst shifters for Chrysler products did not have a hole thru the reverse lever for the alignment pin. the tool to align the shifter was U shaped , had a pin that went into the notch on the box and into 1/2 and 3/4 , the other part of the tool slide over the outside edge of the notch and over all 3 levers and it had a thumb screw to close the open end of the U .

I don't remember if that changed in 70 or 71 , but this is how 68 and 69 shifters were and are aligned, someone posted a photo of the tool from the FSM within the last 2 weeks in another thread on this subject.

I made one of these tools because I was not able to find one.

Here is a picture of the factory tool i found in another much older thread .


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Mine is a 69. I have two Hurst shifters and neither has any hole in the reverse lever for allignment. I got it working. My error was not having the reverse lever on the trans in the forward position. I eye balled the reverse lever with the 1/2, 3/4 and adjusted the rods accordingly. Statically it shifts through the gears ok now. Thanks for everyones help.

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Clarification. I am holding an OEM shifter in my hands. The 1-2 and 3-4 shift levers have a hole through them. The reverse lever goes toward the front and has what appears to be half a hole (notch)on the rear edge of the reverse lever. The adjustment rod goes completely through the shifter and is indexed on both sides of the shifter housing.




What year is your shifter box , prior to 1970 the reverse lever in the OEM factory installed Hurst shifters for Chrysler products did not have a hole thru the reverse lever for the alignment pin. the tool to align the shifter was U shaped , had a pin that went into the notch on the box and into 1/2 and 3/4 , the other part of the tool slide over the outside edge of the notch and over all 3 levers and it had a thumb screw to close the open end of the U .

I don't remember if that changed in 70 or 71 , but this is how 68 and 69 shifters were and are aligned, someone posted a photo of the tool from the FSM within the last 2 weeks in another thread on this subject.

I made one of these tools because I was not able to find one.

Here is a picture of the factory tool i found in another much older thread .






John,

The shifter I have is either a '68 or '69. Read my second post. I clarified that reverse does NOT have a hole but it does have a notch in the edge that clears an alignment rod. I've seen the tool you posted a picture of but frankly I've never seen anyone, including myself, use one. You use about a 5/32" drill bit for an alignment tool, get the levers roughed in, and then do a final adjustment as required to get a smooth transition through the neutral gate. Yes, not using the tool is kind of a pain as the bit has to be held in the notches but again, I've never seen it done any other way.


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Since all the factory tool does is align the sides of the levers it's easy to use a 1/4" rod to align the 1-2 and 3-4 levers and then just eyeball the Reverse lever to align the sides of it with the other two.


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