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ShoGun water pump system users? !!! UPDATE!! #1222506 04/26/12 09:05 AM 04/26/12 09:05 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,293 Rock Springs Bob_Coomer OP master
Bob_Coomer OP master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,293 Rock Springs	Anyone here use these... The lines sure are small, but this setup is defintaly light weight. If I was running alky with this car, no question it would work.. But will it keep my race car cool between rounds, in the Kentucky heat & Humidity? Last edited by Bob_Coomer; 05/09/12 11:26 PM. [color:"red"]65 Hemi Belvedere coming soon [/color] [color:"#00FF00"]557" Indy engine 1.07 60ft 144mph in the 8th 2100 lbs package [/color]

Re: ShoGun water pump system users? [Re: Bob_Coomer] #1222507 04/26/12 09:51 AM 04/26/12 09:51 AM
Joined: May 2011 Posts: 4,489 northern,Ohio,USA C Clanton master
Clanton master C Joined: May 2011 Posts: 4,489 northern,Ohio,USA	are you using both the pump and manifold?if so the manifold has #8 fittings correct?[in/out]i just have the manifold but have not used it. GOTBOOST!New improved with Victor heads. http://www.enginelabs.com/mopar-big-bloc...t-of-necessity/

Re: ShoGun water pump system users? [Re: Bob_Coomer] #1222508 04/26/12 11:43 AM 04/26/12 11:43 AM
Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 17 Western Kentucky M Muscles member
Muscles member M Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 17 Western Kentucky	I've used one for years with no problems.

Re: ShoGun water pump system users? [Re: Clanton] #1222509 04/26/12 11:49 AM 04/26/12 11:49 AM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,008 Sweet Home Alabama M MRMOPAR622 top fuel
MRMOPAR622 top fuel M Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,008 Sweet Home Alabama	Bill @ Sho-Gun says the lines are small for a reason. I use a Sho-Gun cooling system but changed to a bigger pump(I had the small Sho-Gun pump)only because the Sho-Gun pump went out. Sho-Guns bigger pump or a after market pump dose seem to work better. But I cheated and used the #10 lines with reducers at the manifold. Try it I think you will be pleased! "To Be The Man'You Have Got To Beat The Man" "T/D and Pro-Bracket Racer"

Re: ShoGun water pump system users? [Re: MRMOPAR622] #1222510 04/26/12 11:51 AM 04/26/12 11:51 AM
Joined: May 2011 Posts: 4,489 northern,Ohio,USA C Clanton master
Clanton master C Joined: May 2011 Posts: 4,489 northern,Ohio,USA	i hope to use it with a wp136. 20 GPM http://www.jegs.com/i/Meziere/680/WP136S/10002/-1 Last edited by Clanton; 04/26/12 05:57 PM. GOTBOOST!New improved with Victor heads. http://www.enginelabs.com/mopar-big-bloc...t-of-necessity/

Re: ShoGun water pump system users? [Re: Clanton] #1222511 04/26/12 01:54 PM 04/26/12 01:54 PM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 637 Kokomo,IN StripeHOG mopar
StripeHOG mopar Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 637 Kokomo,IN	you can get a spare pump here... make sure to keep a couple spare impellers on hand and use some kind of cooling system lubricant... http://www.starwatersystems.com/ProductBenefit.aspx?ProductID=199 Andrew Brough D372 1969 Dodge Dart GTS 1.43 60'best 6.82 1/8 98mph "the light came on and I ran out of talent"

Re: ShoGun water pump system users? [Re: StripeHOG] #1222512 04/26/12 02:21 PM 04/26/12 02:21 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Quote: you can get a spare pump here... make sure to keep a couple spare impellers on hand and use some kind of cooling system lubricant... http://www.starwatersystems.com/ProductBenefit.aspx?ProductID=199 That looks like the pump that I got at Harbor Freight to replace my leaking Borba pump on a Saturday morning. It is a little noisey but I haven't had an overheating problem yet.

Re: ShoGun water pump system users? [Re: ] #1222513 04/26/12 02:35 PM 04/26/12 02:35 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Here are some pctures of my Shogun pump and why I wasn't impressed with it. I don't understand why the holes are so small for the imput and output, when compared to the 3/8 line size going to it. Then on to a split manifold after that(more volume). T

Re: ShoGun water pump system users? [Re: ] #1222514 04/26/12 02:59 PM 04/26/12 02:59 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	The reason I didn't like the pump and didn't use it was because the lines were a pain to install. You can see the holes for the lines were drilled verticle to the two button head screws on the top and bottom of the pump. I guess the reason being, you could then drill both verticle holes without moving the drill head. If the holes were drilled at a few degrees the lines would be easier to install. I think they should be drilled perpendicular to the pump head. This is the problem it causes when your intalling the lines. Maybe someone out there can explain why you would design a race part like this.

Re: ShoGun water pump system users? [Re: ] #1222515 04/26/12 04:28 PM 04/26/12 04:28 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 276 Mid west G Gearhead383 enthusiast
Gearhead383 enthusiast G Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 276 Mid west	I've used one for over 5 years with no problems. Bought a spare impeller just incase, but haven't need it. My only complaint is that it's noisey.

Re: ShoGun water pump system users? [Re: Gearhead383] #1222516 04/26/12 08:08 PM 04/26/12 08:08 PM
Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 142 illinois E evenflow member
evenflow member E Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 142 illinois	more than 10 years no problems. Bill says he uses -8 lines because the block passages are 1/2 inch.

Re: ShoGun water pump system users? [Re: evenflow] #1222517 04/27/12 12:17 AM 04/27/12 12:17 AM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 13,187 aZLiViN J J_BODY I Live Here
J_BODY I Live Here J Joined: May 2003 Posts: 13,187 aZLiViN	Ran one on my RB equipped Mirada for years. In the Vegas heat you could go round after round with no issues. Cooled to the point where you could take your sweet time in later rounds while the other guy was puking coolant after the his burnout... DAMHIK

Re: ShoGun water pump system users? [Re: J_BODY] #1222518 04/27/12 12:38 AM 04/27/12 12:38 AM
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 714 Central TEXAS!!!! sr4440 super stock
sr4440 super stock Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 714 Central TEXAS!!!!	the shogun pump blows. I use a booster pumpoff a school bus. Part# CP-20-BBWA Joe Without Data, you’re just another guy with an opinion.

Re: ShoGun water pump system users? [Re: ] #1222519 04/27/12 10:51 PM 04/27/12 10:51 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,293 Rock Springs Bob_Coomer OP master
Bob_Coomer OP master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,293 Rock Springs	Quote: The reason I didn't like the pump and didn't use it was because the lines were a pain to install. You can see the holes for the lines were drilled verticle to the two button head screws on the top and bottom of the pump. I guess the reason being, you could then drill both verticle holes without moving the drill head. If the holes were drilled at a few degrees the lines would be easier to install. I think they should be drilled perpendicular to the pump head. This is the problem it causes when your intalling the lines. Maybe someone out there can explain why you would design a race part like this. Not sure why that you didnt fix that... Could have used a street L or just a short nipple, then ordered a fitting with a female end? 100 ways to get around that little set back... anyways... [color:"red"]65 Hemi Belvedere coming soon [/color] [color:"#00FF00"]557" Indy engine 1.07 60ft 144mph in the 8th 2100 lbs package [/color]

Re: ShoGun water pump system users? [Re: Bob_Coomer] #1222520 04/28/12 10:36 AM 04/28/12 10:36 AM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 13,187 aZLiViN J J_BODY I Live Here
J_BODY I Live Here J Joined: May 2003 Posts: 13,187 aZLiViN	Interesting.... my pump was set up in the same fashion, but I didn't have an issue putting the lines on like your pict clearly shows. Drill must have been off an "n'th" the day that one was made.

Re: ShoGun water pump system users? [Re: J_BODY] #1222521 04/28/12 11:33 AM 04/28/12 11:33 AM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	You can't tell the centerline from a picture I lifted from the Shogun site. I still don't understand why they don't just drill a few degrees off center so they will clear. The added clearence would make it easier to work on when your hanging over a fender. I guess having made my own cooling system and worried about things like clearences When you maufature a product I think you would make it as adaptable as possible.

Re: ShoGun water pump system users? [Re: ] #1222522 04/28/12 01:11 PM 04/28/12 01:11 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,401 Tucson, Arizona M MRMOPAR top fuel
MRMOPAR top fuel M Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,401 Tucson, Arizona	Anyone, besides Bob (eh100), made their own manifolds? If so, do you have any pictures? 68 RR 528" INDY MAXX 07 2500 CTD Southwest International Raceway - IHRA - Tucson, AZ

Re: ShoGun water pump system users? [Re: MRMOPAR] #1222523 04/28/12 01:47 PM 04/28/12 01:47 PM
Joined: May 2011 Posts: 4,489 northern,Ohio,USA C Clanton master
Clanton master C Joined: May 2011 Posts: 4,489 northern,Ohio,USA	Quote: Anyone, besides Bob (eh100), made their own manifolds? If so, do you have any pictures? AndyF i believe makes some. GOTBOOST!New improved with Victor heads. http://www.enginelabs.com/mopar-big-bloc...t-of-necessity/

Re: ShoGun water pump system users? [Re: MRMOPAR] #1222524 04/28/12 02:18 PM 04/28/12 02:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,016 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,016 Oregon	Yes, I make water manifolds for BB and Hemi engines. http://www.hughesengines.com/Index/produ...mp;partid=27040

Re: ShoGun water pump system users? [Re: Bob_Coomer] #1222525 04/28/12 02:46 PM 04/28/12 02:46 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,231 State of retirement 5 52savoy master
52savoy master 5 Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,231 State of retirement	Any of you guys pump water through the heads? I can't use the front top engine hole because the heads don't have a water provision(hole). I have to use the front(and rear) of the heads(core holes) I was trying dif. combos here....

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