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Dumb question - Were all OEM forged 440 cranks... #1219154
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... drilled for accepting a manual transmission input shaft?

If not, what dimension in the pilot hole of the crank indicates it's manual-trans compatible? Thanks.

Re: Dumb question - Were all OEM forged 440 cranks... [Re: BradH] #1219155
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Here's a guess, based on years of accumulating knowledge.....They were all drilled but not every single one was broached to the final diameter.
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Re: Dumb question - Were all OEM forged 440 cranks... [Re: dogdays] #1219156
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Based on what I've seen over the years no. Almost every B/RB I've had apart that had an automatic behind it was not drilled.


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Re: Dumb question - Were all OEM forged 440 cranks... [Re: dogdays] #1219157
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Here's a guess, based on years of accumulating knowledge.....They were all drilled but not every single one was broached to the final diameter.
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2 different outer diameter pilot bushings where available for mopar cranks. One for a 4spd crank and one for a auto crank to be used in front of a 4spd. That one has the smaller outer diameter. Napa did have them. I don't know if they are still available. Brewer's or Passion may have them. I also have some undrilled cast cranks.

Re: Dumb question - Were all OEM forged 440 cranks... [Re: Mike P] #1219158
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Based on what I've seen over the years no. Almost every B/RB I've had apart that had an automatic behind it was not drilled.


I'm going with you on this one.
My understanding is that the crank was drilled after installation if it was to be mated with a manual transmission. Urban legend?

Re: Dumb question - Were all OEM forged 440 cranks... [Re: Commando1] #1219159
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I have never seen one that is not drilled, just not all are finished to fit the bushing


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Re: Dumb question - Were all OEM forged 440 cranks... [Re: HotRodDave] #1219160
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I have never seen one that is not drilled, just not all are finished to fit the bushing


Some of the early (1966 to 1968) 440 automatic cranks where like the 383 cranks, not drilled deep enough to use either bushings, NAPA adapter or stock. Just like the 413 and 426 street wedges where


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Re: Dumb question - Were all OEM forged 440 cranks... [Re: Cab_Burge] #1219161
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I have never seen one that is not drilled, just not all are finished to fit the bushing


Some of the early (1966 to 1968) 440 automatic cranks where like the 383 cranks, not drilled deep enough to use either bushings, NAPA adapter or stock. Just like the 413 and 426 street wedges where





both of the above . easy enough to work around , trim the input shaft and use a later bushing that goes in the convertor register or if the crank is out of the engine at least have it drilled deeper and use the later bushing in the convertor register.

Re: Dumb question - Were all OEM forged 440 cranks... [Re: JohnRR] #1219162
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I've only seen 1 out of 30 440's that wasn't drilled,it was just spot drilled.







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