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HEMI superstock engine specs #1213499 04/10/12 11:32 AM 04/10/12 11:32 AM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 12,008 Finally a HUSKER again Moparnut426 OP I Live Here
Moparnut426 OP I Live Here Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 12,008 Finally a HUSKER again	Does anyone on here know where I can read up on these engines? I was watching the HEMI shootout races on youtube and couldnt believe I was hearing a big block. Just nasty sounding. So I got curious, and couldnt find much on google. Kasey

Re: HEMI superstock engine specs [Re: Moparnut426] #1213500 04/10/12 11:57 AM 04/10/12 11:57 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 10,384 Upstate NY Bigcube I Live Here
Bigcube I Live Here Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 10,384 Upstate NY	You won't find the latest and greatest stuff. It's all top secret... I do recall there was a book that Jeff at Modern Cylinder Head had input about super stockers but don't recall what book it was. Jim

Re: HEMI superstock engine specs [Re: Bigcube] #1213501 04/10/12 12:02 PM 04/10/12 12:02 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,145 Melbourne , Australia LA360 master
LA360 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,145 Melbourne , Australia	There was also an article in Mopar Action about 12-18 months ago that had pictures of inside Lim Daniels engine at Barton's Shop. There's not a lot of "stock" in Super Stock! Alan Jones

Re: HEMI superstock engine specs [Re: LA360] #1213502 04/10/12 12:24 PM 04/10/12 12:24 PM
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Dragula I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,394 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	Yeah, your not going to see anything on those. All closely guarded. '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

Re: HEMI superstock engine specs [Re: LA360] #1213503 04/10/12 12:33 PM 04/10/12 12:33 PM
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sixpackgut Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	Quote: There was also an article in Mopar Action about 12-18 months ago that had pictures of inside Lim Daniels engine at Barton's Shop. There's not a lot of "stock" in Super Stock! I have that issue. there is 1 gazillion dollars in the cam and valve train Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: HEMI superstock engine specs [Re: Moparnut426] #1213504 04/10/12 12:34 PM 04/10/12 12:34 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,409 Ont. Canada 10.90 Racer super street
10.90 Racer super street Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,409 Ont. Canada	Quote: Does anyone on here know where I can read up on these engines? I was watching the HEMI shootout races on youtube and couldnt believe I was hearing a big block. Just nasty sounding. So I got curious, and couldnt find much on google. Kasey Stock in SS = Piston top configuration(increased valve notches if need be) Cylinder head spec volumes intake,exhaust port and chamber CC Valve sizes (any length) Stock carb Stock rod wt and length Forged or cast crank

Re: HEMI superstock engine specs [Re: Dragula] #1213505 04/10/12 12:40 PM 04/10/12 12:40 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 12,008 Finally a HUSKER again Moparnut426 OP I Live Here
Moparnut426 OP I Live Here Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 12,008 Finally a HUSKER again	I thought I read something somewhere that Hess only gets 3 events on an engine? Dont know if thats true, but dont the Pro stock engines go longer than that?

Re: HEMI superstock engine specs [Re: Moparnut426] #1213506 04/10/12 12:49 PM 04/10/12 12:49 PM
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bwdst6 Bob George Racing #1 Fan B Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 970 Backwater, PA	Quote: I was watching the HEMI shootout races on youtube and couldnt believe I was hearing a big block. Just nasty sounding. That�s because they run them to 9,500 RPMs and with only 440 inch motors there are �small� block engines that have more displacement now a days. 50 runs on one motor is usually the norm. This post is available in double vision where drunk.

Re: HEMI superstock engine specs [Re: Bigcube] #1213507 04/10/12 01:18 PM 04/10/12 01:18 PM
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340B5 pro stock Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,532 off the grid	Quote: You won't find the latest and greatest stuff. It's all top secret... I do recall there was a book that Jeff at Modern Cylinder Head had input about super stockers but don't recall what book it was. Yup, I'd love to know it all. But I understand they could tell me, but then they'd have to shoot me. Yeah, it's got a smallblock.

Re: HEMI superstock engine specs [Re: 340B5] #1213508 04/10/12 01:28 PM 04/10/12 01:28 PM
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,443 Maryland D Dads426 pro stock
Dads426 pro stock D Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,443 Maryland	Mopar Performance put out a book on the 68 SS cars a few years ago. It is dated but has some interesting info in it. Mancini is out of them, but you may be able to find one elsewhere. I believe the part number is DCX68SSAA. 2012 422 Allstars NSS Champion 2013 422 Allstars NSS Champion 2014 422 Allstars NSS Champion

Re: HEMI superstock engine specs [Re: Moparnut426] #1213509 04/10/12 02:01 PM 04/10/12 02:01 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,027 Trumbull,CT. J jim sciortino top fuel
jim sciortino top fuel J Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,027 Trumbull,CT.	Quote: Does anyone on here know where I can read up on these engines? I was watching the HEMI shootout races on youtube and couldnt believe I was hearing a big block. Just nasty sounding. So I got curious, and couldnt find much on google. Kasey The arm is shorter than most of todays stroker smallblocks. The top AH cars run north of 9500rpm.

Re: HEMI superstock engine specs [Re: jim sciortino] #1213510 04/10/12 02:23 PM 04/10/12 02:23 PM
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jim sciortino top fuel J Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,027 Trumbull,CT.	Longevity is not nearly the issue it was years ago....... Jim Daniels killer sees the usual 75 run freshin up (rings, bearings, springs) and has over 250 laps on the majority of the engine. All this in a 3200#, auto equipped car that spins 10k and 60fts in the 1.10 range. They are ridiculous......

Re: HEMI superstock engine specs [Re: jim sciortino] #1213511 04/10/12 02:55 PM 04/10/12 02:55 PM
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mr_340 master M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,505 DFW	If you have around $70k laying around, I'm sure WC and Barton would be happy to sell you one. You could post on the SS/AH thread and see what you get there. I seem to remember Mark Howes (CANUCK on here) told me they get 8-10 runs on intake springs. They seem to have problems with the intake valves breaking, so I'm sure the valve covers come off after every run. That is why WC put clear windows on the top of his covers. I used to want to run SS/BA with my 1964 Belvedere. Too much money for my budget. NSS is looking better everyday after watching the SS/AH go Jr. PS. Floyd Lippencott IV

Re: HEMI superstock engine specs [Re: jim sciortino] #1213512 04/10/12 03:00 PM 04/10/12 03:00 PM
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mbogina enthusiast M Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 293 Kansas City Metro	These engines are more relaible than most people think, although some are more maintenance intensive than others, particularly the valve springs (due to the weight of the OEM Style valves/springs/retainers, ramp speeds of the cam lobes and RPM). Anybody "pushing the envelope" is going to experience some damage in the short term in the constant search of a quicker ET. As an example, we used to get over 200 passes from a set of valve springs w +.950 lift and 8000 rpm shifts, that number fell to 85 passes at 8600 rpm shifts, less than 40 passes at 9000, even less at higher speeds. Reducing rotating weight within the rules is a challenge, and strength of parts vs weight and RPM is another. Increasing mass airflow through the engine is a huge challenge, given that you are restricted to an intake port volume of 189cc, and OEM style and size of carbs. Be a Rebel- Break the Laws of Physics!

Re: HEMI superstock engine specs [Re: 340B5] #1213513 04/10/12 03:28 PM 04/10/12 03:28 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY HEMIFRED master
HEMIFRED master Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY	Quote: Quote: You won't find the latest and greatest stuff. It's all top secret... I do recall there was a book that Jeff at Modern Cylinder Head had input about super stockers but don't recall what book it was. Yup, I'd love to know it all. But I understand they could tell me, but then they'd have to shoot me. I can post pics later but they went as far as to move the lifter bore and cam lobes to make the pushrod angles straight. That required a cam bearing of about 1/3rd width of the original. home of the Sox and Martin Hemi Duster

Re: HEMI superstock engine specs [Re: HEMIFRED] #1213514 04/10/12 03:33 PM 04/10/12 03:33 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 12,008 Finally a HUSKER again Moparnut426 OP I Live Here
Moparnut426 OP I Live Here Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 12,008 Finally a HUSKER again	Quote: Quote: Quote: You won't find the latest and greatest stuff. It's all top secret... I do recall there was a book that Jeff at Modern Cylinder Head had input about super stockers but don't recall what book it was. Yup, I'd love to know it all. But I understand they could tell me, but then they'd have to shoot me. I can post pics later but they went as far as to move the lifter bore and cam lobes to make the pushrod angles straight. That required a cam bearing of about 1/3rd width of the original. I imagine that cam isnt too cheap.

Re: HEMI superstock engine specs [Re: Moparnut426] #1213515 04/10/12 04:40 PM 04/10/12 04:40 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY HEMIFRED master
HEMIFRED master Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY	a hired gun was involved that was paid a large 6 figured amount . For that they got a motor that was totally re engineered with the confins or the rules. The big end of rods are only Honda 1.88" but the overall weight is same as stock. Rememeber the only rule on head work is the port volume .Where the put it or what shape not checked home of the Sox and Martin Hemi Duster

Re: HEMI superstock engine specs [Re: HEMIFRED] #1213516 04/10/12 06:30 PM 04/10/12 06:30 PM
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MCHBOB member M Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 49 Sterling Heights, MI	Its not that these engines will only go 3 races or 25 runs.Its far cheaper to pull and go threw at 3 races 25 runs and replace known parts that fail at 40-50 runs.You can run it till it breaks but sometimes the only parts you have left to work with after that happens Tend to be the valve covers and intake manifold.

Re: HEMI superstock engine specs [Re: MCHBOB] #1213517 04/10/12 06:36 PM 04/10/12 06:36 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY HEMIFRED master
HEMIFRED master Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY	at on point the favored combo had cam lifts in the high .900 . Valve springs were worn after a few passes. For those who valued leakdown numbers 5 % meant new rings home of the Sox and Martin Hemi Duster

Re: HEMI superstock engine specs [Re: HEMIFRED] #1213518 04/10/12 07:07 PM 04/10/12 07:07 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 12,008 Finally a HUSKER again Moparnut426 OP I Live Here
Moparnut426 OP I Live Here Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 12,008 Finally a HUSKER again	WOW, does anyone in here have any tear down pictures of them? Im sure the pistons have a really short skirt to save weight somewhat. THe rest is probly very foreign compared to standard hemi parts.

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