Re: what's wrong...
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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04/09/12 06:43 PM
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I`ve run a 6bbl. a long time in all kinds of weather. How COLD was it? I see people with coats on? Check all the usual stuff but its probably the intake manifold. In cooler weather{on mine 60* was when it starts} the air is cold and the fuel does NOT stay in suspension making all those hard 90* bends in the manifold. Try NO fresh air,if you have it.
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Re: what's wrong...
[Re: W7_Scamp]
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04/11/12 10:17 PM
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go get a new cap and rotor (NOT at Oreilly auto) and try that. Instead of replacing valve springs and fuel system stuff----its a cheaper experiment ! Again---My car sounded exactly like yours did at the same rpm . It was a faulty distributor cap ...that was TWO months old ! (junk Oreilly crap ) ask Tboomer-- he's the one that loaned me a new Accel cap at the track.
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Re: what's wrong...
[Re: W7_Scamp]
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04/11/12 10:33 PM
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Mr.Yuck
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I find it amazing how many times I go to the track and see cars missing, backfiring, not running correctly. I think what a waste of money hauling, paying for gas, entry fees. etc How hard is it to make a pass on back road somewhere before loading up. Matter fact I have way more passes on the street than I do the track.
If it misses on the street than bet ur a-- it will do the same at the track. start making adjustments one at a time and give it a shot on the street. when u can make a clean pass on the street ur ready for the track.
umm had zero issues last year or all off season. made on romp on the way no issues, but I didn't all out hit it either, that's not very smart. If I knew the car was running bad I would have never taken it to the track. It's not like I live in the back woods or something. I live in the suburbs of DC. I'd take a big chance going WOT around here. 493 That's part of the plan...I'll start on the cheap and go from there.
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Re: what's wrong...
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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04/11/12 11:02 PM
04/11/12 11:02 PM
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I find it amazing how many times I go to the track and see cars missing, backfiring, not running correctly. I think what a waste of money hauling, paying for gas, entry fees. etc How hard is it to make a pass on back road somewhere before loading up. Matter fact I have way more passes on the street than I do the track.
If it misses on the street than bet ur a-- it will do the same at the track. start making adjustments one at a time and give it a shot on the street. when u can make a clean pass on the street ur ready for the track.
umm had zero issues last year or all off season. made on romp on the way no issues, but I didn't all out hit it either, that's not very smart. If I knew the car was running bad I would have never taken it to the track. It's not like I live in the back woods or something. I live in the suburbs of DC. I'd take a big chance going WOT around here. 493 That's part of the plan...I'll start on the cheap and go from there.
Many times these problems won't be found until you get to the track. Like what Yuck said, kinda hard to keep your foot into it for 1/4 mile most places. Running at the track is so much different than the street.
If I read your post right, you said you have 3/8" fuel line feeding a holley pump?
I'm sure you have read about my fuel pump plumbing advise?
Might want to do the fuel can test on a hot day?
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Re: what's wrong...
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04/12/12 12:02 AM
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That's pretty funny I run my car exactly the same at the track as I do on the street. Of course the street is traction limited off the hit, ya got to feather the throttle a little. I'm just sayin it's alot easier driving to a back road for a little tnt than it is to pay an entry fee buy food gas etc, Only to have wasted a day. Just my opinion Now if it was a drag only car w no tags gutted no exhaust etc. then I guess the track would be the only place to work out bugs. As far as it not being smart ! at least you wouldn't have been out that money. And a low 11 sec car should definatly be able to hook on the street. It sounds like it starts to break up at the eigth mile. Surley there's that much room on a back road around DC. I just have to sit n laugh when a car starts to break up in the burn out box and can't even begin to make a full pass. Pretty much everyone is like wtf did they even bother driving the car before bringing it to the track!
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Re: what's wrong...
[Re: W7_Scamp]
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04/12/12 12:11 AM
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And a low 11 sec car should definatly be able to hook on the street.
72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72.
Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.
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Re: what's wrong...
[Re: Von]
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04/12/12 12:34 AM
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W7, he lives in Montgomery County. When you cross the county line there is a sign that says "Welcome to Mongomery county. No fun allowed."
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Re: what's wrong...
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04/12/12 04:08 AM
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I found out last year when I went to the track in Oct that I dont floor my car on the street and hold it down. When I hit the track with my new eng the car had drove fine and I would hit it a little once in a while but I just dont rip it to the floor and hold it there. At the track when I nailed it and started to run out first it started busting up and surging. I had not rejeted the carb and was to lean but I never knew it was that bad from driving on the street. I dont street race and as Mr Yuck said there is not many places around where I live to run it out hard and not worry about getting a ticket or having them impound the car. Its just not many places around here I feel safe winding it out and not worring about getting a ticket. Ron
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Re: what's wrong...
[Re: 383man]
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04/12/12 09:32 AM
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Mr.Yuck
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"And a low 11 sec car should definatly be able to hook on the street" well I can tell you I have nailed it more than a few times on the street and with the drag radails (street pressure at 28) They will spin as long as I want them to. The track is much better for traction. I'm going to get this weekend. I'll let you all know if/what I find. 1. cap/rotor/coil 2. plug wires 3. grounds 4. check voltage 5. fuel flow 6. valve springs Of course I have to fix the leaky axle seal 1st
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Re: what's wrong...
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
#1211880
04/12/12 04:04 PM
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viperblue72
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change the fuel pump! Then put a good ignition in it.
I have an MSD new in the box on the shelf. It will be going in soon...and I'll bump the pressure up... Just wondering why it didn't do this last year. Mayeb I'll get the Holley Black. Thanks..
I would start by putting the msd ignition in. If it breaks up in every gear, I doubt it is fuel problem. I had this problem with the stock ignition on my duster. Put in the msd 6al and problem ws solved.
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Re: what's wrong...
[Re: W7_Scamp]
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04/13/12 09:57 AM
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Mr.Yuck
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Maybe u should try et streets. My car will dead hook on the street bad enough that the windshield looks like it's going to pop out. But it is slower 11.50's at 119 but with factory slant 6 springs no cage or frame connectors and swap meet shocks I would like to think that a lower et could hook just as good with a few suspension mods. Maybe not thought haven't been there yet will let ya know. Gettin ready to order some new et streets 27-8.5's I can probably post a video from in front of the house! But for a full pass I'll have to drive a mile or so! love livin in the country. But seriously good luck and hope u figure it out.
I'm definitely going to work on the 60 foot. (1.60 now I'd like 1.50)But I haven't had a BB be able to hook on the street even w/ stickies. Probably because when I'm driving around I have them at 28-30.
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Re: what's wrong...
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
#1211883
04/13/12 10:07 AM
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I know when my duster did this, I tried different gas and it started doing the same thing yours does. I replaced everything and got nowhere. I drained the fuel and replaced with THE GOOD STUFF, and changed the plugs and she was back to normal. Oh and I drive my 9sec car on the street and it will not hook anywhere, let alone the fact you got no idea where a car may be pulling out of. Being a cop I have seen my share of crashes and I hate having to go tell wife, mom , dad and or kids that their loved one is dead cause they didn't want to spend $100 bucks on fuel, entry and food. Just not worth it IMO...
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