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Re: $20 drive shaft loop no drilling required [Re: pacifica] #1210001 01/28/13 01:29 AM 01/28/13 01:29 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Bolt it onto the crossmember with existing through bolts. Drop back of driveshaft and slide hoop up to bracket and bolt together. Why do some of you guys insist on making them with such a long lever arm.... that looks nice but you better have a plate between it and your butt

Re: $20 drive shaft loop no drilling required [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1210002 01/28/13 01:48 AM 01/28/13 01:48 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,587 Great Neck,LI,new york hemi-itis I Live Here
hemi-itis I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,587 Great Neck,LI,new york	Been this way for 20 years 7564294-6.12.12026.jpg (88 downloads) HEMI-ITIS has no cure. My condition is fully BLOWN!!

Re: $20 drive shaft loop no drilling required [Re: hemi-itis] #1210003 01/28/13 01:58 AM 01/28/13 01:58 AM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Been this way for 20 years I dont know if your rolling eyes were directed at me or not but I even have a problem with yours... you have what 1 bolt on each side 3/4 of the way out on those long pieces of flat stock.... put a couple of good bolts in CLOSE to the loop and cut 3/4 of that wasted flat stock off

Re: $20 drive shaft loop no drilling required [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1210004 01/28/13 11:41 AM 01/28/13 11:41 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,587 Great Neck,LI,new york hemi-itis I Live Here
hemi-itis I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,587 Great Neck,LI,new york	No Raff,roll not directed at you.Recentley replaced the old one with a new one and just went into exsisting holes.The old loop was missing the top half and you have to get the whole kit so I just installed it complete. Guess I could shorten it up a tad HEMI-ITIS has no cure. My condition is fully BLOWN!!

Re: $20 drive shaft loop no drilling required [Re: hemi-itis] #1210005 01/28/13 12:53 PM 01/28/13 12:53 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: No Raff,roll not directed at you.Recentley replaced the old one with a new one and just went into exsisting holes.The old loop was missing the top half and you have to get the whole kit so I just installed it complete. Guess I could shorten it up a tad OK... if you bolt it in close you can cut a good bit of that flat stock off and have it work better and look better(I hope you have a top half on the new one)

Re: $20 drive shaft loop no drilling required [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1210006 01/28/13 01:29 PM 01/28/13 01:29 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,271 Vista, California 6 67Satty pro stock
67Satty pro stock 6 Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,271 Vista, California	Here's a $54 one, no drilling required: http://compare.ebay.com/like/330716703817?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar Bolts to the crossmember. I always pass tech. Then again, the tech guy never looks under my car.

Re: $20 drive shaft loop no drilling required [Re: 67Satty] #1210007 01/28/13 02:22 PM 01/28/13 02:22 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Here's a $54 one, no drilling required: http://compare.ebay.com/like/330716703817?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar Bolts to the crossmember. I always pass tech. Then again, the tech guy never looks under my car. Passing tech and saving your butt are two different worlds.... I'm sure I could put my rod caps on with grade 2 bolts... it might live for a few turns but then again maybe it wouldnt.... I wonder if there is a reason for good quality bolts EDIT But use what ever you want.. its your car and your a$$ Last edited by MR_P_BODY; 01/28/13 02:23 PM.

Re: $20 drive shaft loop no drilling required [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1210008 01/28/13 02:55 PM 01/28/13 02:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,762 Hot Rod Ridge FastmOp master
FastmOp master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,762 Hot Rod Ridge	Nice looking loops you guys built! I'd run either if I needed one. Don't you like how this board looks at new ideas lol

Re: $20 drive shaft loop no drilling required [Re: FastmOp] #1210009 01/28/13 03:13 PM 01/28/13 03:13 PM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Nice looking loops you guys built! I'd run either if I needed one. Don't you like how this board looks at new ideas lol Sorry... I look at them from a structural point.. do you think its wise to control a rotating item thats way out of whack from 12"-14" away or right next to it... you can use what ever floats your boat but I was just trying to point out the reason it should be closer

Re: $20 drive shaft loop no drilling required [Re: FastmOp] #1210010 01/28/13 03:17 PM 01/28/13 03:17 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 12,271 Overpriced Housing Central RobX4406 I Live Here
RobX4406 I Live Here Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 12,271 Overpriced Housing Central	Satty, Hold 5lbs in your hand. Then grab one end of a 2 foot long piece of wood and put the 5 pounds on the other end... A bit harder to hold up. Nothing wrong with your loops, just the suspended ring and the way it will lever against your attachment points. I'd find a way to solidly mount the ring so there is another attachment point than just the crossmember bolts. Decent design, just needs some refinements, IMO.

Re: $20 drive shaft loop no drilling required [Re: RobX4406] #1210011 01/28/13 03:22 PM 01/28/13 03:22 PM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Satty, Hold 5lbs in your hand. Then grab one end of a 2 foot long piece of wood and put the 5 pounds on the other end... A bit harder to hold up. Nothing wrong with your loops, just the suspended ring and the way it will lever against your attachment points. I'd find a way to solidly mount the ring so there is another attachment point than just the crossmember bolts. Yep... like putting a bolt through the ring into the floor pan with a reinforcement inside.... but that takes drilling

Re: $20 drive shaft loop no drilling required [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1210012 01/28/13 08:20 PM 01/28/13 08:20 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 602 N.E.Ohio P pacifica mopar
pacifica mopar P Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 602 N.E.Ohio	Quote: Quote: Satty, Hold 5lbs in your hand. Then grab one end of a 2 foot long piece of wood and put the 5 pounds on the other end... A bit harder to hold up. Nothing wrong with your loops, just the suspended ring and the way it will lever against your attachment points. I'd find a way to solidly mount the ring so there is another attachment point than just the crossmember bolts. Yep... like putting a bolt through the ring into the floor pan with a reinforcement inside.... but that takes drilling As much as I don't want to drill a hole in my floor I'm afraid I know that in order for the loop to have a chance at being effective I'm gonna have to plate the floor at the top like Mr P. says above My car is street car more than race car but I made more than 90 passes at the track last year [with NO loop] and I think I've pushed my luck long enough. Can't wait till this is put away and this returns

Re: $20 drive shaft loop no drilling required [Re: FastmOp] #1210013 01/28/13 11:34 PM 01/28/13 11:34 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila master
Crizila master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: Nice looking loops you guys built! I'd run either if I needed one. Don't you like how this board looks at new ideas lol New ideas don't mean good ideas. Running a lever arm that long to support the loop is a BAD idea. It will just be more shrapnel heading your way with any kind of front yoke /cross failure - and possibly even with a rear failure. Loop support should be in line with the loop and bolted through the floor / frame with at least 4 bolts. JMO. I have experienced shaft failures from both ends. The can be very mild or extremely violent. You gotta build for the latter. Fastest 300

Re: $20 drive shaft loop no drilling required [Re: Crizila] #1210014 01/29/13 12:20 AM 01/29/13 12:20 AM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,257 gulfport, ms, west mi rowin4 master
rowin4 master Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,257 gulfport, ms, west mi	Over the last 40 plus years of racing I have yet to break a front u joint, twisted off drive shafts,never broke a tail shaft , spread rear yokes, blew out lots of rear joints. That $20 dollar universal loop is all you need. NHRA says it must be mounted within 6" of the joint. Keep it centered at 6" from the Joint and the bolts won't catch and tear your stuff. it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead

Re: $20 drive shaft loop no drilling required [Re: rowin4] #1210015 01/29/13 01:09 AM 01/29/13 01:09 AM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Over the last 40 plus years of racing I have yet to break a front u joint, twisted off drive shafts,never broke a tail shaft , spread rear yokes, blew out lots of rear joints. That $20 dollar universal loop is all you need. NHRA says it must be mounted within 6" of the joint. Keep it centered at 6" from the Joint and the bolts won't catch and tear your stuff. I was gonna let this drop BUT I cant and Steve I'm suprized you would say its good enough.... if the front breaks(I've seen a few) and that thing bends down, it will bend enough to allow the shaft to exit the loop.... I guess none of you guys ever seen a car pole vault... all he has to do is bolt the loop to the floor on that design... that'll make it 100% better

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