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Steering coupler question #1204329 03/27/12 12:50 AM 03/27/12 12:50 AM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 840 southern Idaho M moparcyco OP super stock
moparcyco OP super stock M Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 840 southern Idaho	Kinda new over here read through most of the posts goood info.My question for you guys is what do You use for your steering coupler with your upgraded boxes?The box in my challenger is shot and I can stand it no longer.So I shipped mine to firm feel today but forgot to ask Mr. Ross about the coupler.Is there an upgrade?Or is a properly rebuilt stocker ok?This is an ex drag car being built back to a driver that will have excellent handling.Thanks guys

Re: Steering coupler question [Re: moparcyco] #1204330 03/27/12 02:05 AM 03/27/12 02:05 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,029 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,029 Oregon	Flaming River has u-joints that replace the coupler. The u-joint saves a little space which can be handy around some headers.

Re: Steering coupler question [Re: AndyF] #1204331 03/27/12 03:16 AM 03/27/12 03:16 AM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA Kern Dog Striving for excellence
Kern Dog Striving for excellence Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA	Rick Ehrenberg from Mopar Action advises against the U joint coupling because it has no fore/aft slide action. This could result in broken steering column capsules and worn bearings. I've seen and read of people using them anyway with few problems. Rick is like anyone else though. He has his opinions based on what he believes. There are rebuild kits for the factory couplers. Steer and Gear offers an alternative to the thin steel retainer that seals in the grease: Its a polyurethane boot that fits over the end of the coupler. They are P R I C E Y though..... $28 each! I called to order a few, thinking that they might be $10-$15 each. I only bought 2 !

Re: Steering coupler question [Re: Kern Dog] #1204332 03/27/12 07:32 AM 03/27/12 07:32 AM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN A ahy master
ahy master A Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN	I'm running the re-built stocker. Its nice and tight with new "shoes".

Re: Steering coupler question [Re: Kern Dog] #1204333 03/27/12 09:32 AM 03/27/12 09:32 AM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 5,337 the house on the left. C cogen80 master
cogen80 master C Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 5,337 the house on the left.	Quote: advises against the U joint coupling because it has no fore/aft slide action. were the stock joints used to provide "fore/aft slide action" ? or was it used to make up for the poor tolerances on the assembly line?

Re: Steering coupler question [Re: cogen80] #1204334 03/27/12 10:21 AM 03/27/12 10:21 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,393 Pikes Peak Country T TC@HP2 master
TC@HP2 master T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,393 Pikes Peak Country	Uni-bodies flex and parts move around. If you don't have reinforcements on the uni-body and the steering mount in particular, you're taking a chance putting a solid coupling in there.

Re: Steering coupler question [Re: TC@HP2] #1204335 03/27/12 01:48 PM 03/27/12 01:48 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,533 Indiana F Fury Fan master
Fury Fan master F Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,533 Indiana	Especially true with a C-body, or any other car with a removable fromt subframe or rubber-isolated K-member.

Re: Steering coupler question [Re: Fury Fan] #1204336 03/27/12 02:51 PM 03/27/12 02:51 PM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 434 sweden C cuda-sweden mopar
cuda-sweden mopar C Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 434 sweden	i used my oem with new internals.theres no slop,none

Re: Steering coupler question [Re: cuda-sweden] #1204337 03/27/12 03:53 PM 03/27/12 03:53 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger master
72Swinger master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	Here is the one I bought. Came in a Mopar labeled sealed bag?? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Steering-Coupler...#ht_2161wt_1163 Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: Steering coupler question [Re: 72Swinger] #1204338 03/28/12 12:18 AM 03/28/12 12:18 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,807 North Dakota Azzkikrcuda top fuel
Azzkikrcuda top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,807 North Dakota	Do you have the Mopar part number off the bag your kit came in?

Re: Steering coupler question [Re: Azzkikrcuda] #1204339 03/28/12 12:57 AM 03/28/12 12:57 AM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger master
72Swinger master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	1-04443436AC Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: Steering coupler question [Re: 72Swinger] #1204340 03/28/12 01:14 AM 03/28/12 01:14 AM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 840 southern Idaho M moparcyco OP super stock
moparcyco OP super stock M Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 840 southern Idaho	Cool looks like the stocker gets the nod here.I have a ton of slop in my steering.I've never had it apart since I have owned the car so I will rebuild the stock one,as the u joint style looks like way more work than I want to do.Thanks everyone

Re: Steering coupler question [Re: Kern Dog] #1204341 03/28/12 12:56 PM 03/28/12 12:56 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,359 Buzzard County, FL IronWolf pro stock
IronWolf pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,359 Buzzard County, FL	I bought my coupler rebuild kit from Ehrenberg. The "value-added" part of the deal was the detailed instruction sheet that came with the kit. Believe it or not, it's easy to muck up the coupler installation, so I appreciated the extra help.

Re: Steering coupler question [Re: moparcyco] #1204342 03/30/12 10:45 PM 03/30/12 10:45 PM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1,131 Thigh-Gap Junction @ @#$%&*! New user name, Same old jerk!
@#$%&*! New user name, Same old jerk! @ Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1,131 Thigh-Gap Junction	The factory coupler is a slip joint. Ask D.R. if he'll match the ebay coupler kit price along with the steering box rebuild.

Re: Steering coupler question [Re: TC@HP2] #1204343 04/03/12 01:12 AM 04/03/12 01:12 AM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,688 Marlboro, NY, USA R Rick_Ehrenberg top fuel
Rick_Ehrenberg top fuel R Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,688 Marlboro, NY, USA	Quote: Uni-bodies flex and parts move around. If you don't have reinforcements on the uni-body and the steering mount in particular, you're taking a chance putting a solid coupling in there. Absolutely correct. Not really dangerous, but once you snap the nylon breakaway pin, or trash the upper bearing, you've set yourself up for lots more work and parts-chasing. Flaming River's setup works fine with their column (only), because it is a close-tolerance collapsible deal with no breakaway pin. Rick

Re: Steering coupler question [Re: moparcyco] #1204344 04/03/12 08:47 AM 04/03/12 08:47 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio Challenger 1 Too Many Posts
Challenger 1 Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio	Quote: Cool looks like the stocker gets the nod here.I have a ton of slop in my steering.I've never had it apart since I have owned the car so I will rebuild the stock one,as the u joint style looks like way more work than I want to do.Thanks everyone Check to make sure the shoe's are installed properly, if there 90 degrees out you will have lot's of slop. DAMHIK

Re: Steering coupler question [Re: Challenger 1] #1204345 04/04/12 02:02 AM 04/04/12 02:02 AM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 840 southern Idaho M moparcyco OP super stock
moparcyco OP super stock M Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 840 southern Idaho	Thanks for the input, its at least 90 percent the box there could be some slop due to a worn coupler.That was the idea when I posted this.Must be a pretty good design from the factory if that what most guys over here are using,always looking for an upgrade,especially when its coming apart anyways.As always thanks to all my moparts friends

Re: Steering coupler question [Re: moparcyco] #1204346 04/26/12 04:12 PM 04/26/12 04:12 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 7,982 Scranton, PA Montclaire master
Montclaire master Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 7,982 Scranton, PA	I really can't bring myself to waste any more time on another factory coupler. Is there any way to improve on the flaming river design? I do plan to use a sector support and frame ties. Last edited by Montclaire; 04/26/12 04:17 PM.

Re: Steering coupler question [Re: Montclaire] #1204347 04/26/12 08:50 PM 04/26/12 08:50 PM
Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 47 michigan,usa W woody02 member
woody02 member W Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 47 michigan,usa	hey killerbee...i have a chally as well with the same sloppy gearbox. what was the cost to send it out and rebuild?also is it being built to stock specs,or are they giving it a firmfeel upgrade? thanks

Re: Steering coupler question [Re: Challenger 1] #1204348 04/26/12 10:59 PM 04/26/12 10:59 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 724 PA USA F flatiron super stock
flatiron super stock F Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 724 PA USA	Quote: Quote: Cool looks like the stocker gets the nod here.I have a ton of slop in my steering.I've never had it apart since I have owned the car so I will rebuild the stock one,as the u joint style looks like way more work than I want to do.Thanks everyone Check to make sure the shoe's are installed properly, if there 90 degrees out you will have lot's of slop. DAMHIK Got my stock coupling rebuild kit through Dorman or Napa for like 7 bucks at the local autoparts shop

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