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anyone ever update their seat belts? #1202444 03/24/12 12:04 PM 03/24/12 12:04 PM
Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 39 mississauga, ontario, canada P patbee383 OP member
patbee383 OP member P Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 39 mississauga, ontario, canada	Just wonderin if any one has updated from the 2 piece to a one piece more modern setup for safety and conveniance? Maybe their is a kit? 1970 Dodge Superbee 2008 Dodge Ram 2500 HEAVY DUTY 2011 Dodge Caravan 2002 Honda Accord?

Re: anyone ever update their seat belts? [Re: patbee383] #1202445 03/24/12 02:05 PM 03/24/12 02:05 PM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 840 southern Idaho M moparcyco super stock
moparcyco super stock M Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 840 southern Idaho	Check xv motorsports they have a cool 3 point setup for our cars I have one for my 69 super Bee have not installed it yet,cant get my car out of body shop prison yet.

Re: anyone ever update their seat belts? [Re: patbee383] #1202446 03/24/12 02:22 PM 03/24/12 02:22 PM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA Kern Dog Striving for excellence
Kern Dog Striving for excellence Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA	I went with 3 points with a single retractor from SSnayk oyl.

Re: anyone ever update their seat belts? [Re: Kern Dog] #1202447 03/24/12 02:38 PM 03/24/12 02:38 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 19,921 Puttin' on the foil in Charles... not_a_charger Mr. Big Shot Moparts Moderator
not_a_charger Mr. Big Shot Moparts Moderator Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 19,921 Puttin' on the foil in Charles...	Quote: I went with 3 points with a single retractor from SSnayk oyl. How did they fit/how do they look? Any trouble with the install? Any pics? Earning every penny of that moderator paycheck. DBAP

Re: anyone ever update their seat belts? [Re: not_a_charger] #1202448 03/24/12 02:58 PM 03/24/12 02:58 PM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA Kern Dog Striving for excellence
Kern Dog Striving for excellence Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA	Quote: Quote: I went with 3 points with a single retractor from SSnayk oyl. How did they fit/how do they look? Any trouble with the install? Any pics? THE Ssnayk Oyl belts look nice and fit in using the stock attachment points. They use one single retractor in the stock location near between the seat and sill. They cross my neck and chest at an angle that I do NOT like. The seats are stock and I'm 5'10 so its not as if I'm 4'3 and sitting on the floor. The A body 74-76 design used two retractors and a standoff for the overhead anchor. This allowed the belt to cross at the shoulder and chest. I'll post pictures of both designs later.

Re: anyone ever update their seat belts? [Re: patbee383] #1202449 03/24/12 03:18 PM 03/24/12 03:18 PM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 22,873 Chicken coop dustergirl340 Chicken Little
dustergirl340 Chicken Little Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 22,873 Chicken coop	I found a post on abodiesonly a long time ago about using conversion van seat belts: http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=48125&highlight=Seat+Belt+Install Here is the company: http://wescoperformance.stores.yahoo.net/conversion-van-seat-belt.html Fit great, and they are very comfortable.

Re: anyone ever update their seat belts? [Re: Kern Dog] #1202450 03/24/12 03:52 PM 03/24/12 03:52 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 19,921 Puttin' on the foil in Charles... not_a_charger Mr. Big Shot Moparts Moderator
not_a_charger Mr. Big Shot Moparts Moderator Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 19,921 Puttin' on the foil in Charles...	Quote: They cross my neck and chest at an angle that I do NOT like. That's what I figured. That's the same reason we don't use the shoulder belts in my 73 wagon, and that's what's kept me from installing a retractable-style 3 point setup. Earning every penny of that moderator paycheck. DBAP

Re: anyone ever update their seat belts? [Re: not_a_charger] #1202451 03/24/12 10:12 PM 03/24/12 10:12 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,489 Candler,NC / Myrtle Beach, SC J JDMopar master
JDMopar master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,489 Candler,NC / Myrtle Beach, SC	71 T/A sent me a link several years ago, to a company that sells 3 point stuff. It was reasonably priced, and it works well. The belts I bought have a dogbone that drops the shoulder belt down to where it isn't rubbing your neck. Maybe Jim will see this thread and post the link again. I lost it when my old computer took a dump.

Re: anyone ever update their seat belts? [Re: JDMopar] #1202452 03/25/12 10:07 AM 03/25/12 10:07 AM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 277 Palmyra, NY 6 63stabamatic enthusiast
63stabamatic enthusiast 6 Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 277 Palmyra, NY	I used a 3-point set from Andover Restraints on my 63, had them 10 years,very nice. http://www.andoauto.com/

Re: anyone ever update their seat belts? [Re: moparcyco] #1202453 03/25/12 10:11 AM 03/25/12 10:11 AM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 5,337 the house on the left. C cogen80 master
cogen80 master C Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 5,337 the house on the left.	Quote: Check xv motorsports they have a cool 3 point setup for our cars I have one for my 69 super Bee have not installed it yet,cant get my car out of body shop prison yet. here are the xv belts without the stupid xv logo http://wescoperformance.stores.yahoo.net/conversion-van-seat-belt.html

Re: anyone ever update their seat belts? [Re: JDMopar] #1202454 03/25/12 10:17 AM 03/25/12 10:17 AM
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 344 PA noplanb enthusiast
noplanb enthusiast Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 344 PA	I have the XV belts installed in a 72 Cuda. Much better than the stock shoulder belts but even with the drop they feel like they would crush my aorta in a collision (6 foot). And the retractors lock by movement on the belt, so they have to be coaxed out to buckle. More drop would work. The car just went back to the body shop so I can't measure the drop length, will compare to the van conversion belts when it comes home. remember when you said honey, some day that car is gonna look so good in front of our house

Re: anyone ever update their seat belts? [Re: cogen80] #1202455 03/25/12 10:45 AM 03/25/12 10:45 AM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 22,873 Chicken coop dustergirl340 Chicken Little
dustergirl340 Chicken Little Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 22,873 Chicken coop	Quote: Quote: Check xv motorsports they have a cool 3 point setup for our cars I have one for my 69 super Bee have not installed it yet,cant get my car out of body shop prison yet. here are the xv belts without the stupid xv logo http://wescoperformance.stores.yahoo.net/conversion-van-seat-belt.html Yup...those are the same ones I posted. I really like them.

Re: anyone ever update their seat belts? [Re: not_a_charger] #1202456 03/25/12 11:40 AM 03/25/12 11:40 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,823 Between Houston & Galveston TX SattyNoCar Smarter than no class Flappergass by a mile
SattyNoCar Smarter than no class Flappergass by a mile Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,823 Between Houston & Galveston TX	Quote: Quote: They cross my neck and chest at an angle that I do NOT like. That's what I figured. That's the same reason we don't use the shoulder belts in my 73 wagon, and that's what's kept me from installing a retractable-style 3 point setup. On my wagon, I HATED the stock setup (anchor point over the back door??) I converted to three point using a kit from Juliano's. I mounted the upper mount in the B-pillar just like the factory did starting in '74. I might have some pics somewhere if you're interested. John The dream is dead, long live the dream.......😥

Re: anyone ever update their seat belts? [Re: 63stabamatic] #1202457 03/25/12 12:07 PM 03/25/12 12:07 PM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 730 Nampa, ID MadMatt super stock
MadMatt super stock Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 730 Nampa, ID	Quote: I used a 3-point set from Andover Restraints on my 63, had them 10 years,very nice. http://www.andoauto.com/ I think that is the same company I used for my conversion on my 70 Dart. Worked out pretty well, but I had to pull the covers off the retractors for clearance at the seats. The passenger side one is still a little finicky because it is hard to get it straight up and down with the clearance. Still, much better than the stock double belts, and these belts have the aircraft type buckle release instead of the GM push button. 7134753-IMG_2510.JPG (128 downloads) Some see the glass as half empty, some see the glass as half full. I just drink straight out of the bottle.

Re: anyone ever update their seat belts? [Re: MadMatt] #1202458 03/25/12 12:08 PM 03/25/12 12:08 PM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 730 Nampa, ID MadMatt super stock
MadMatt super stock Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 730 Nampa, ID	Here's another photo. 7134755-IMG_2511.JPG (125 downloads) Some see the glass as half empty, some see the glass as half full. I just drink straight out of the bottle.

Re: anyone ever update their seat belts? [Re: MadMatt] #1202459 03/25/12 01:36 PM 03/25/12 01:36 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,285 West Coast, USA jbc426 master
jbc426 master Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,285 West Coast, USA	I tried the XV 3-points in my 1970 e-body. I didn't like them. The retractor is in the way of moving the seat all the way rearward, and if you get close to that position with the seat, the retractor gets at such an angle that it binds up the retraction action of the belt. I went back to the stock lap belt & separate shoulder belt. Still have the XV's if anyone wants them. Just pay to box & ship. 1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's 1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)

Re: anyone ever update their seat belts? [Re: jbc426] #1202460 03/25/12 04:21 PM 03/25/12 04:21 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 4,730 Florida BDW master
BDW master Joined: May 2005 Posts: 4,730 Florida	I'm interested, PM sent

Re: anyone ever update their seat belts? [Re: BDW] #1202461 03/25/12 09:10 PM 03/25/12 09:10 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 305 East Tennessee B Burkenator enthusiast
Burkenator enthusiast B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 305 East Tennessee	I used the XV setup also. It works for me. I do wish it had the aircraft style buckle, though.

Re: anyone ever update their seat belts? [Re: 63stabamatic] #1202462 03/25/12 10:22 PM 03/25/12 10:22 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,489 Candler,NC / Myrtle Beach, SC J JDMopar master
JDMopar master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,489 Candler,NC / Myrtle Beach, SC	Quote: I used a 3-point set from Andover Restraints on my 63, had them 10 years,very nice. http://www.andoauto.com/ That's the ones! Thanks for the link. Added to favorites again.

Re: anyone ever update their seat belts? [Re: Burkenator] #1202463 03/26/12 01:12 AM 03/26/12 01:12 AM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,168 Vancouver, WA MoparMarq super stock
MoparMarq super stock Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,168 Vancouver, WA	I did a setup that I adapted from a '92 Dodge van. Posted a raft of pics a couple of years ago. Might still be here somewhere. Anyhoo, retractor and frame rail end of lap belt portion both bolt to frame rail anchor point. It has a dogbone, like an earlier poster mentioned, that attaches to the roof rail anchor point, which drops and moves forward the shoulder portion of the belt so that it lays across the shoulder/chest properly. The dogbone also allows the belt to hinge out of the way nicely for entry to the rear seat. Webbing and buckles are black, like originals. Car is a '72 RR. This shot is early in the adaptation. Trimmed the plate down more and redrilled it to hide it under the retractor cover better. 7135976-3pt_14.jpg (98 downloads)

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