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paint guys, shade tree repair #1190553 03/03/12 10:39 PM 03/03/12 10:39 PM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,167 Maryland GO_Fish OP master
GO_Fish OP master Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,167 Maryland	Picked up a straight fender today to replace the "customized" one on my Ram. New fender is dark green metallic, where my Ram is dark metallic burgundy. Am I safe just wet sanding the green donor and spraying burgundy, or do I need to use a primer first (red, gray, black) for a good color match??? Scott B. "I'm a self-made man... I started with nothing, and I still have most of it!" 68 360 rusty B'cuda 'vert (GO Fish)13.59@ 98.72 mph 69 340 GTS stock 14.18@ 95.60 mph 01 5.9L Ram 1500 Quad Cab 4x4 01 3.5L 300M 16.23@ 86.97 mph

Re: paint guys, shade tree repair [Re: GO_Fish] #1190554 03/03/12 10:55 PM 03/03/12 10:55 PM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,048 Back home in PA B BulletBob master
BulletBob master B Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,048 Back home in PA	Sand it ,seal it & paint it.

Re: paint guys, shade tree repair [Re: BulletBob] #1190555 03/03/12 11:22 PM 03/03/12 11:22 PM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,167 Maryland GO_Fish OP master
GO_Fish OP master Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,167 Maryland	Are you saying strip it to bare metal first?? I guess you lost me on "seal it". Last edited by GO_Fish; 03/03/12 11:25 PM. Scott B. "I'm a self-made man... I started with nothing, and I still have most of it!" 68 360 rusty B'cuda 'vert (GO Fish)13.59@ 98.72 mph 69 340 GTS stock 14.18@ 95.60 mph 01 5.9L Ram 1500 Quad Cab 4x4 01 3.5L 300M 16.23@ 86.97 mph

Re: paint guys, shade tree repair [Re: BulletBob] #1190556 03/03/12 11:27 PM 03/03/12 11:27 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 394 md W wicked enthusiast
wicked enthusiast W Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 394 md	Quote: Sand it ,seal it & paint it. X2 if the old surface is intact with no peeling etc

Re: paint guys, shade tree repair [Re: wicked] #1190557 03/03/12 11:35 PM 03/03/12 11:35 PM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,167 Maryland GO_Fish OP master
GO_Fish OP master Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,167 Maryland	The clear coat on the top side of the donor fender is "spider webbing", but not lifting. I'd plan on wet sanding off the deteriorated clear coat before I spray. Scott B. "I'm a self-made man... I started with nothing, and I still have most of it!" 68 360 rusty B'cuda 'vert (GO Fish)13.59@ 98.72 mph 69 340 GTS stock 14.18@ 95.60 mph 01 5.9L Ram 1500 Quad Cab 4x4 01 3.5L 300M 16.23@ 86.97 mph

Re: paint guys, shade tree repair [Re: GO_Fish] #1190558 03/03/12 11:40 PM 03/03/12 11:40 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 394 md W wicked enthusiast
wicked enthusiast W Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 394 md	all that bad clear needs to come off even if it looks like it sands ok, the spider webbing would show back up and I would prime and block it doing it that way. Sometimes those little spider webs are down to the base /primer, however deep it has to get sanded off to avoid issues later. Last edited by wicked; 03/03/12 11:55 PM.

Re: paint guys, shade tree repair [Re: GO_Fish] #1190559 03/03/12 11:54 PM 03/03/12 11:54 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 989 WI, USA 6 67dodge67 mopar addict
67dodge67 mopar addict 6 Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 989 WI, USA	Quote: The clear coat on the top side of the donor fender is "spider webbing", but not lifting. I'd plan on wet sanding off the deteriorated clear coat before I spray. Take it down to the paint, seal it, spray it. Just my Dave

Re: paint guys, shade tree repair [Re: GO_Fish] #1190560 03/04/12 12:31 PM 03/04/12 12:31 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,489 Candler,NC / Myrtle Beach, SC J JDMopar master
JDMopar master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,489 Candler,NC / Myrtle Beach, SC	Quote: Are you saying strip it to bare metal first?? I guess you lost me on "seal it". He meant you need to spray a coat of sealer on the fender before you paint it. Sealing is the last step before painting. Just sand all the old clear coat off, then spray the sealer and let it flash the proper amount of time per the spec sheet with the sealer...then paint it. No need to sand the sealer first. I would sand a place off on the old fender to see what color sealer was under the original paint, and buy that color sealer.

Re: paint guys, shade tree repair [Re: JDMopar] #1190561 03/04/12 12:55 PM 03/04/12 12:55 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,825 Kirkland, Washington Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts
Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,825 Kirkland, Washington	"shade tree repair"??? I wouldn't even bother with a sealer or primer. Assuming the paint is original factory. Just sand out the clear imperfections, making sure the clear that remains is bonded slid to the edge (no lifting), scuff and squirt. If you go to bare metal in any spots then prime first. Done many shade tree fixes this way, no issues.

Re: paint guys, shade tree repair [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #1190562 03/04/12 01:24 PM 03/04/12 01:24 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 624 Modesto CA B BFASTER mopar
BFASTER mopar B Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 624 Modesto CA	Quote: "shade tree repair"??? I wouldn't even bother with a sealer or primer. Assuming the paint is original factory. Just sand out the clear imperfections, making sure the clear that remains is bonded slid to the edge (no lifting), scuff and squirt. If you go to bare metal in any spots then prime first. Done many shade tree fixes this way, no issues. Even small areas of bare metal that show up, like corners and edges, you can paint right over without priming them first. Just make sure the entire part is clean. Clean parts are very important. 1969 Dodge Super Bee Hardtop 2007 Nissan Altima 3.5SE

Re: paint guys, shade tree repair [Re: JDMopar] #1190563 03/04/12 01:29 PM 03/04/12 01:29 PM
Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 339 California M moparbroz enthusiast
moparbroz enthusiast M Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 339 California	Is seal it the same as prime it? If not what kind of sealer? (Brand and series name). Quote: Quote: Are you saying strip it to bare metal first?? I guess you lost me on "seal it". He meant you need to spray a coat of sealer on the fender before you paint it. Sealing is the last step before painting. Just sand all the old clear coat off, then spray the sealer and let it flash the proper amount of time per the spec sheet with the sealer...then paint it. No need to sand the sealer first. I would sand a place off on the old fender to see what color sealer was under the original paint, and buy that color sealer. Hebrews 11:1

Re: paint guys, shade tree repair [Re: moparbroz] #1190564 03/04/12 07:39 PM 03/04/12 07:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,489 Candler,NC / Myrtle Beach, SC J JDMopar master
JDMopar master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,489 Candler,NC / Myrtle Beach, SC	Quote: Is seal it the same as prime it? If not what kind of sealer? (Brand and series name). Quote: Yes and no. The sealer I have used in the past is actually epoxy primer (PPG DP90LF) After you have done all your body work,priming, and block sanding...you need to spray a coat of sealer on last thing before you apply the topcoat. Like someone above said, it's probably not necessary for a backyard job. Sometimes I forget to take my mind out of " Do it by the book restoration mode."

Re: paint guys, shade tree repair [Re: JDMopar] #1190565 03/05/12 04:39 AM 03/05/12 04:39 AM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts
DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada	For a shade tree type job, just scuff the panel with 400 and shoot it.

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