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Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: 72Swinger] #1172681
04/08/12 10:34 PM
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Car is comming along nicly. Some advice from my experience with rear gearing. I had 3.91s installed in the rear of my 3100 # duster. When I installed the TKO-500 1st gear was way too low. I changed to 3.23s and lauches and drives extremly well with a 422ci small block,aluminum flywheel, corvette C/F dual friction clutch. I know its not a drag car NOR is mine. I found the lower gear just went to waste in useless rpm,tire smoke and shifts came too quickly. With your engine you will likely come to the same conclusion. I guess what I am saying is to just keep your eyes open for 3.55s or 3.23s. Trans ratios I found apply to my TKO-500 and your T56. I think 3.55s will be your prefered gear when you get to drive it.
Oh my rear tires are 275 60 15 bfg drag T/As pretty tall and they work fairly good for the corners.
Ratios:
TKO-500 (standard ratio) 3.27, 1.98, 1.34, 1.0, 0.68 I had my OD changed to the.82.

'98-02 F-body LS1 450tq. ratios 2.66 1.78 1.30 1.00 .74 .50 2.90
Good luck.

Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: dezduster] #1172682
04/08/12 10:50 PM
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Im sticking with a 3.91 with the 6spd. First gear in the T56 is same A833 and ive been in plenty of cars with that combo and it flat rips. In 6th gear im a hair over 2000rpm at 80 rpm which is where I want to be on the interstate. Thanks for the advise. If I had a 5 speed id run 3.55s.


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Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: 72Swinger] #1172683
04/14/12 03:44 PM
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Awesome job on it my brother,fabricator skills achieved

Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: 6packattk] #1172684
04/14/12 04:35 PM
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Awesome job on it my brother,fabricator skills achieved


Thanks for the props man but we will see how the fuel tank comes out before the high fives can fly!


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Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: 72Swinger] #1172685
04/16/12 02:48 AM
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Was admiring your work and saw the windage tray while you were putting the pan on your engine. I looked through the jegs website and they have two windage trays available with rubber gaskets built in. One for 3.75 stroke and the other for 4.15. I know they aren't that hard to seal up, but I thought I'd throw that out there while you're at that point.
Here's a link to the part: http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS+Performance+Products/555/502000/10002/-1

Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: dodgeboy11] #1172686
04/16/12 12:30 PM
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Yes I have seen those and they are a great deal. Im just going to use what I have but thanks for the heads up! Gonna clean up the firewall and situate some wiring today so as soon as my pushrods arrive I can start putting this old [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] back together.


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Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: 72Swinger] #1172687
04/21/12 08:11 PM
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Finally going in the right direction.....back together!

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Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: 72Swinger] #1172688
04/21/12 08:13 PM
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Trans in its final resting place.....

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Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: 72Swinger] #1172689
04/21/12 08:14 PM
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Interior be will nice and fresh as well...

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Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: 72Swinger] #1172690
04/24/12 03:10 AM
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Trans in its final resting place.....




looks similar !!!

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Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: Keith Black®] #1172691
04/24/12 10:53 AM
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Wow, love how you did the mount! Did you replace your whole tunnel?


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Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: 72Swinger] #1172692
04/24/12 11:16 AM
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Trans in its final resting place.....




If that was mine, If I am seeing everything correctly, I'd add 2 mirror image gussets as space allows for expected exhaust pipe clearances, on either side of those slightly off vertical flat bar pieces connecting to the rectangular horizontal tubes. The current connection is a stress concentration point, and likely to have little rigidity because at that connection point the cross sectional area is suddenly greatly reduced. How much loading on this member is unknown, but the weakness remains.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: jcc] #1172693
04/24/12 11:26 AM
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Trans in its final resting place.....




If that was mine, If I am seeing everything correctly, I'd add 2 mirror image gussets as space allows for expected exhaust pipe clearances, on either side of those slightly off vertical flat bar pieces connecting to the rectangular horizontal tubes. The current connection is a stress concentration point, and likely to have little rigidity because at that connection point the cross sectional area is suddenly greatly reduced. How much loading on this member is unknown, but the weakness remains.




Absolutely..

Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: jcc] #1172694
04/24/12 11:52 AM
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Trans in its final resting place.....




If that was mine, If I am seeing everything correctly, I'd add 2 mirror image gussets as space allows for expected exhaust pipe clearances, on either side of those slightly off vertical flat bar pieces connecting to the rectangular horizontal tubes. The current connection is a stress concentration point, and likely to have little rigidity because at that connection point the cross sectional area is suddenly greatly reduced. How much loading on this member is unknown, but the weakness remains.


Doing that would definitely make it stronger. What you dont see,or maybe you can,is there is 1/8" plate stacked on each other on both sides, but spread apart about 3/8" at the tops where in ties into the cross pieces. My attaching bolt arrangement also helps the crossmember from being springy. If I could've afforded a Magnum T56 like Darren used I could've used the factory crossmember location and worked from there but this seemed the lesser of 2 evils with a Viper trans.

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Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: 72Swinger] #1172695
04/24/12 05:38 PM
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Wow, love how you did the mount! Did you replace your whole tunnel?




Yep we replaced the tunnel from firewall to just after the crossmember, detailed pics etc under the readers rides & projects section of this site.

Love your build


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Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: Keith Black®] #1172696
05/13/12 03:57 PM
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Latest developments... 67 B body housing

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Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: 72Swinger] #1172697
05/13/12 03:59 PM
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742 case 3.91s and Power Lok

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Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: 72Swinger] #1172698
05/13/12 04:00 PM
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Engine bay getting closer. Gonna use a breather tank plumbed into the valley pan.

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Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: 72Swinger] #1172699
05/13/12 04:01 PM
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Interior 95% done

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Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: 72Swinger] #1172700
05/13/12 04:02 PM
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Backseat turned out nice!

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