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good ignition modules? #1162838 01/22/12 09:03 PM 01/22/12 09:03 PM
Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 653 montana P pjc360 OP mopar
pjc360 OP mopar P Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 653 montana	It's time for a new ecu ignition module, i am trying to find a good module that will last a long time and be reliable and provide a good spark, with that being said should i get a borg warner select module or a napa echlin module or a car quest blue line module or a standard ignition module or a mopar orange ignition module? what modules have you guys had good luck with? and what would you guys reccomend? thanks.

Re: good ignition modules? [Re: pjc360] #1162839 01/23/12 01:06 AM 01/23/12 01:06 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,439 So Cal Sinitro master
Sinitro master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,439 So Cal	Mopar chrome box.. Was running an MSD 6, switched over to a Mopar chrome box runs smoother and easier starting.. Just my $0.02..

Re: good ignition modules? [Re: Sinitro] #1162840 01/23/12 01:25 AM 01/23/12 01:25 AM
Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 653 montana P pjc360 OP mopar
pjc360 OP mopar P Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 653 montana	i thought the mopar chrome box was good thru for 8000rpm? I'm needing a new module for my truck, it has the mopar vaccume advanced electronic ignition, it very rarely see's anything over 4500 rpm, but ocasionally i get on her and get up to 6000 rpm. so would the orange box be more apropriate for what i'm doing? i have an orange module that i found on one of my shelves in the garage, but i do not know if it works... i'm going out of town tommarrow and i can pick up a borg warner select ignition module for 26.99 and the local napa at the little town im in now wanted 67 bucks for there echlin ignition module and car quest wanted 52.50 for there car quest blue line ignition module, and i am pretty sure that borg warner i can get for 26.99 is just as good as the napa echlin and the car quest blue. So i decided i will go ahead and buy the borg warner ignition module and when i get back i will try the orange mopar ignition module and if it works i'll return the borg warner, if it dont work i'll slap the borg warner on it, i have been told that borg warner makes real good ignition parts.

Re: good ignition modules? [Re: pjc360] #1162841 01/23/12 10:27 AM 01/23/12 10:27 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	Quote: with that being said should i get a borg warner select module or a napa echlin module or a car quest blue line module or a standard ignition module or a mopar orange ignition module? any ex the orange death. Get the cheapest one you can, carry a spare. The beef comes from your coil/ballast selection. live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: good ignition modules? [Re: RapidRobert] #1162842 01/23/12 11:54 AM 01/23/12 11:54 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376 D dogdays I Live Here
dogdays I Live Here D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376	Standard Ignition IIRC LX101 is the one recommended by Dr. Chris Jacobs years ago. With the problems that have been associated with Chrome and later orange boxes I cannot see any point to buy one of them. If you have an orange box try it, it may work. Otherwise I suggest you run the electronic distributor directly into an aftermarket multispark box. That way you can ditch the ballast resistor as well. You'll need a two conductor trailer connector which is the same size as the stock plug. I'm doing this with an old Jacobs coil and an MSD 6A that I bought on the 'bay for $40. If you are buying fron scratch I suggest an Accel 300+ ignition box and coil, again I have bought a few on the 'bay with coil and wiring harness for top price of $120.00, new. R. Last edited by dogdays; 01/23/12 11:56 AM.

Re: good ignition modules? [Re: dogdays] #1162843 01/23/12 04:33 PM 01/23/12 04:33 PM
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Paul_Fancsali master P Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,931	Get a new 4 -pin mopar elc module for 86-87 350 series truck or van Contrary to what you may read They will go to 6K easy and not miss a beat. Frankly I would put in a pertronix easy and reliable

Re: good ignition modules? [Re: Paul_Fancsali] #1162844 01/25/12 03:49 AM 01/25/12 03:49 AM
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pjc360 OP mopar P Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 653 montana	So the orange mopar ignition module is not good? or it is good? alot of people have told me its a great module reliable and consistent? thats the module i think i'm going to run, unless somone says other wise?

Re: good ignition modules? [Re: pjc360] #1162845 01/25/12 11:06 AM 01/25/12 11:06 AM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,095 Valencia, España NachoRT74 master
NachoRT74 master Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,095 Valencia, España	They WERE good. Nowdays even the chromed are coming bad. Its about durability. as far they keep working they are great! really!. The problem is the don't last long a lot latelly... even the chromed ones ( I have got two chromed failed in two years ) If you have luck, will be great. Its a random stuff LOL With a Charger born in Chrysler assembly plant in Valencia, Venezuela

Re: good ignition modules? [Re: pjc360] #1162846 01/25/12 11:28 AM 01/25/12 11:28 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	Quote: So the orange mopar ignition module is not good? or it is good? alot of people have told me its a great module reliable and consistent? thats the module i think i'm going to run, unless somone says other wise? Not good, do not waste your money, many many reported failures (missing at speed etc) live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: good ignition modules? [Re: NachoRT74] #1162847 01/25/12 11:52 AM 01/25/12 11:52 AM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,826 NY usa 5 540challenger master
540challenger master 5 Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,826 NY usa	Quote: They WERE good. Nowdays even the chromed are coming bad. Its about durability. as far they keep working they are great! really!. The problem is the don't last long a lot latelly... even the chromed ones ( I have got two chromed failed in two years ) If you have luck, will be great. Its a random stuff LOL this is the first time i have heard of a chrome box going bad so quick. Has anyone else had a problem iwth a crhome box i got mine about 5-6 years ago and its still going. When did you purchase yours???

Re: good ignition modules? [Re: pjc360] #1162848 01/25/12 12:27 PM 01/25/12 12:27 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,443 Indiana Y YO7_A66 master
YO7_A66 master Y Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,443 Indiana	The history of the orange and silver box's has been in question for some time, especially the new ones. Then we have the FBO ECU which is currently in a re-design phase and won't be available until at least March. Then we have the Rev-n-nator ECU which is currently being tested. The above are reasons why I decided to try the MSD Street Fire box to replace my existing ECU. I feel that there is a market for this type of box (MSD, Mallory, etc.) due to the above issues with the Chrysler style ECU's on the market today. These boxes can be used with stock coils and stock distributors and they appear to be fairly dependable, which is what I have not had from the Chrysler style ECU's that I have used. I am not convinced that there is a "GOOD" ECU on the market (Note: two of the above mentioned are not on the market as of today.). I think that it is a hit or miss just like allot of aftermarket electronics that are being sold these days. I would suggest that if you want the stock appearing ECU to try a local parts store house brand and carry a spare. If you are not into the stock appearance, then try one of the major brand ignition companies for one of their boxes. 1970 YO7 A66 [Canadian Export] F8 Challenger 340 (Currently in shop for stroker assy.)

Re: good ignition modules? [Re: 540challenger] #1162849 01/25/12 04:08 PM 01/25/12 04:08 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,095 Valencia, España NachoRT74 master
NachoRT74 master Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,095 Valencia, España	Quote: this is the first time i have heard of a chrome box going bad so quick. Has anyone else had a problem iwth a crhome box i got mine about 5-6 years ago and its still going. When did you purchase yours??? well dunno the dates certainly since they were bought from another guys around, one of them still packaged, but I can tell for sure one is with the old stilish PN and penstastar badly printed and the other one with the newer Mopar performance good and clean printed design With a Charger born in Chrysler assembly plant in Valencia, Venezuela

Re: good ignition modules? [Re: NachoRT74] #1162850 01/25/12 10:25 PM 01/25/12 10:25 PM
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pjc360 OP mopar P Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 653 montana	so what about the standard x-series module? that seems to be the module that everyone has reccomended ether that or the orange or chrome boxes. i think i might as well order the standard x-series module, alot of people have told me its goo till 6500-7000 rpm. one guy i know told me he runs that on his car thats running a 10.5 qaurter mile at 125 mph, he said that standard x-series has never let him down and that it nevers misses a beat.

Re: good ignition modules? [Re: pjc360] #1162851 01/26/12 01:33 AM 01/26/12 01:33 AM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,095 Valencia, España NachoRT74 master
NachoRT74 master Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,095 Valencia, España	I am running one of the ones Rick Ehrenbergh ( sp? ) sells by $40 on the ebay, suposeelly outperforms the orange box and is close to the chromed box. Its working really nice without miss a beat, although actually I liked more the FBO A688 UNTILL BROKE DOWN ( just 4 months RUNNING even 20 months mounted ). It had better start up too. the old FBO A688 has been the best I have used, including the chromed MP ones... BUT... With a Charger born in Chrysler assembly plant in Valencia, Venezuela

Re: good ignition modules? [Re: 540challenger] #1162852 01/26/12 02:47 AM 01/26/12 02:47 AM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 16,478 Canada CrAzYMoPaRGuY I Live Here
CrAzYMoPaRGuY I Live Here Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 16,478 Canada	Quote: Quote: They WERE good. Nowdays even the chromed are coming bad. Its about durability. as far they keep working they are great! really!. The problem is the don't last long a lot latelly... even the chromed ones ( I have got two chromed failed in two years ) If you have luck, will be great. Its a random stuff LOL this is the first time i have heard of a chrome box going bad so quick. Has anyone else had a problem iwth a crhome box i got mine about 5-6 years ago and its still going. When did you purchase yours??? I've never had any troubles with MP chrome boxes, run them on everything- even my motorhomes. Never had any problem with orange boxes until about ten years ago. Never had a "high speed miss" of any sort, but I have had half a dozen orange boxes bought within the last ten years have the "hard/no hot restart". Starts cold (USUALLY) but will crank and crank hot, trying to start ONLY when you release the key. I have a near new orange box with the restart issue sitting under the seat of my 73 motorhome, it worked for about ONE WEEK! I have an FBO A688 in my Jensen, it's been close to two years and it sure runs strong. CrAzYMoPaRGuY

Re: good ignition modules? [Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY] #1162853 01/26/12 04:06 AM 01/26/12 04:06 AM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,399 Aurora, Colorado 451Mopar master
451Mopar master Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,399 Aurora, Colorado	Quote: Never had a "high speed miss" of any sort, but I have had half a dozen orange boxes bought within the last ten years have the "hard/no hot restart". Starts cold (USUALLY) but will crank and crank hot, trying to start ONLY when you release the key. The "hard/no hot restart. Starts cold" is a grounding problem, not the box. Run a ground directly from the box case to the engine block.

Re: good ignition modules? [Re: 451Mopar] #1162854 01/26/12 04:13 AM 01/26/12 04:13 AM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 16,478 Canada CrAzYMoPaRGuY I Live Here
CrAzYMoPaRGuY I Live Here Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 16,478 Canada	Quote: Quote: Never had a "high speed miss" of any sort, but I have had half a dozen orange boxes bought within the last ten years have the "hard/no hot restart". Starts cold (USUALLY) but will crank and crank hot, trying to start ONLY when you release the key. The "hard/no hot restart. Starts cold" is a grounding problem, not the box. Run a ground directly from the box case to the engine block. Nope, it's orange boxes. My motorhomes have separate grounds to the box already. CrAzYMoPaRGuY

Re: good ignition modules? [Re: 451Mopar] #1162855 01/26/12 10:18 AM 01/26/12 10:18 AM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,095 Valencia, España NachoRT74 master
NachoRT74 master Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,095 Valencia, España	Quote: Quote: Never had a "high speed miss" of any sort, but I have had half a dozen orange boxes bought within the last ten years have the "hard/no hot restart". Starts cold (USUALLY) but will crank and crank hot, trying to start ONLY when you release the key. The "hard/no hot restart. Starts cold" is a grounding problem, not the box. Run a ground directly from the box case to the engine block. sometimes, yes, but when you have a direct AUXILIARY WIRE getting to the module to be able to restart it and even in that way, hard to restart it, it must be something else With a Charger born in Chrysler assembly plant in Valencia, Venezuela

Re: good ignition modules? [Re: NachoRT74] #1162856 01/26/12 03:32 PM 01/26/12 03:32 PM
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pjc360 OP mopar P Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 653 montana	So running an extra ground wire from the ignition module helps? does it have to be grounded to the engine? or can i ground it off the firewall right next to it?

Re: good ignition modules? [Re: pjc360] #1162857 01/26/12 04:08 PM 01/26/12 04:08 PM
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chargincharles enthusiast C Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 277 Cincinnati, Ohio	Well- Might get lynched for this but- When I stripped the Lean Burn system off my 82 New Yorker I replaced the ignition module by converting to a GM aftermarket HEI module. Cheap as death (modules are $15-30), available literally EVERYWHERE, and give a good and hot spark. Car starts easier, runs better and gives me better milage. Read about it here first: http://www.dippy.org/forum2/index.php?topic=2849.msg33339#msg33339 and here: http://www.slantsix.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15779 If I could afford it, I'd probably run an MSD-6 unit for the same reasons, but I'm dirt-poor, so this is what I did. Good Luck with it, CC.

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