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is the edelbrock 2176 intake any good? #1146283
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just need something, found a 2176 intake locally, no egr, but says 318/360 so does this have the small ports for the 318?

Re: is the edelbrock 2176 intake any good? [Re: 340duster340] #1146284
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I googled it & a poster said the ports are in between (he posted dimentions)


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Re: is the edelbrock 2176 intake any good? [Re: RapidRobert] #1146285
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unfortunately right now i am shopping on price and this one i found is about 70 shipped and is in really good used condition.

i figure if i have to gasket match it, its worth the extra TLC to save a few bucks ?? just don't want to waste my time if its a turd intake.

most of the feedback i have read is good. this motor is all stock internals so it will likely never see north of 5000rpm.

Re: is the edelbrock 2176 intake any good? [Re: 340duster340] #1146286
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The performer intake is a pretty good intake. I have the #3776 which just has the EGR on my 360 truck engine. The port at the gasket surface is sized for a 318 head, but when I went to gasket match my intake, the 318 size was actually reduced from the true port size of the intake (true runner size is about same as the 360 port. I think maybe 1/2" deep gasket match opened the intake up to the 360/340 port size.
$70 is a good deal if it's in decent shape.

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Re: is the edelbrock 2176 intake any good? [Re: 340duster340] #1146287
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If you just need an intake to get you going you cant go wrong w 70 shipped. I would check out what I saw on google


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Re: is the edelbrock 2176 intake any good? [Re: 451Mopar] #1146288
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The performer intake is a pretty good intake. I have the #3776 which just has the EGR on my 360 truck engine. The port at the gasket surface is sized for a 318 head, but when I went to gasket match my intake, the 318 size was actually reduced from the true port size of the intake (true runner size is about same as the 360 port. I think maybe 1/2" deep gasket match opened the intake up to the 360/340 port size.
$70 is a good deal if it's in decent shape.






the performer has the 360 size runners but necks down at the head port to a 318 size port.

gasket matching it about 2" into the runners will open it up to the 340/360 port size

its basicly same as a stock intake just lighter,they work good on a mild build for street duty.

the next step up would be the LD4B or a LD340 intake,these intakes are night and day compaird to a performer intake.

I could not believe the differance when i swaped to a LD4B on my 360 headed 318,mind you it even had the port mismatch size useing the LD4B on 360 heads...but what a differance it made.

keep an eye out for one of these intakes and upgrade later like i did,both work well with the LD getting the

a good stock cast iron intake will be just as good as the performer also,and it will have the large 360 ports all the way to the gasket.

all 4-v 318s got the 360 heads and the stock large port intakes,I just swaped a stock cast iron intake onto my 91 318 with the small port #302 heads,you wont notice the mix match on the port unless you are looking for every little bit you can get out of the combo on a time slip. it will work fine for street duty.


Re: is the edelbrock 2176 intake any good? [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1146289
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If you're running a Thermoquad, make sure the manifold's compatible.

Re: is the edelbrock 2176 intake any good? [Re: 340duster340] #1146290
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Actually it is very little if any better than the stock cast iron 4 barrel small block intake.

Re: is the edelbrock 2176 intake any good? [Re: MoparforLife] #1146291
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I have 3 intakes...the Edelbrock Perf., the Weiand 8007 and the LD4B......

One day I decided to flip them all over and compare them from underneath!

The Performer has tiny passages that would look to be ALL DONE by 5000 max. The LD4B looked the best with the Weiand 8007 a close 2nd.

Personally, I'd save my cash and run a cast iron piece unless you have nothing now. The price of used LD4B's and the Weiand equivalant are coming down at all the swapmeets around here due to the economy and hardly anyone builds a daily driver around here anymore. The Performer RPM & Airgap hold value since they are the best.

$70 is a good deal. I couldn't beat that deal since you'd have to pay shipping.


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Re: is the edelbrock 2176 intake any good? [Re: Dean_Kuzluzski] #1146292
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Dean when I built the duster I had a Performer laying around so put it on. A while later found a LD4B and replaced the Performer with it and the performance increase was almost unbelievable. I couple of years later I was able to acquire an LD340 and the performance difference was not near a much as when I went from the Performer to the LD4B. Yes the performance point increased but not as markedly. The basic difference in the LD4B and LD40 is that the runners are reversed and the runners taper down at the head ports.

Re: is the edelbrock 2176 intake any good? [Re: MoparforLife] #1146293
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The basic difference in the LD4B and LD40 is that the runners are reversed and the runners taper down at the head ports.




For the reason above.......is why I never even mentioned the LD340. The LD4B, LD340 and Weiand 8007 are all so close it's neglible for a street car. It's the Performer that is sooooooo dramatically different once you study them.

But, I could see a 318 with a mild cam, 500 cfm Edelbrock/Carter and headers getting 22+ mpg if properly built tuned, built and driven.


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Re: is the edelbrock 2176 intake any good? [Re: Dean_Kuzluzski] #1146294
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The performer was designed as an emissions era stock (1500-5500rpm) replacement 4 barrel for the 318/360. It's not really a true "high rise" manifold like the OEM 340 manifold (which by the way still works very well for what it is). If unmodded it should have 318 sized port entries that can be opened to match the 340-360 sized ports as well.

But for what it is, it's a decent piece (i.e, it doesn't suck) and the manifold you can get for $70.00 sounds like a slam dunk. But for a real High performance motor the RPM or the LD-340 would be the way I'd go. You have to watch some of those old edelbrock castings, the aluminum can be very brittle and easy to strip....very inconsistent metallurgy in the 70's IMO...you either got very good or very bad aluminum.

To build a high MPG 318 I'd use a set of the KB 9:1 flat tops with a zeroed deck set for .040 quench with your gasket and find a set of the late 80's small Heart shaped chamber '302 castings with a little bit of seat and bowl tweaking and an SP2P manifold and with some radius work in the plenums and use an oem 360 .410 lift cam. built right with a lock up converter and 2.94-3.23 gears you could probably squeeze 28mpg out of it in an A body and it would go for 200,000 miles.

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Re: is the edelbrock 2176 intake any good? [Re: Streetwize] #1146295
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Back in the day it was relatively easy to get 20 mph plus out of a off teh showroom floor 318 by driving it sensibly.

Re: is the edelbrock 2176 intake any good? [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1146296
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So the deal fell thru bc the seller saw similar on eBay at a crazy price and now thinks his is worth gold bc it's in " better" condition ... Then I got out bid on a ld340 on eBay.....I think I just might get a Weiand 8007 from Jegs as they are 200 new, as it seems like every decent ld340 is selling for close to that.


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Re: is the edelbrock 2176 intake any good? [Re: 340duster340] #1146297
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I run that intake on my 318, seems pretty good and way better then the single plain streetmaster it replaced as far as drivability.
I do use a Thermoquad and that intake is setup to use square or spread bore so it bolted right on. With the streetmaster I had to use a adapter-plate to make it work and the LD4b will have the same issue if you do want to run a spreadbore.
I WANTED a LD4B for the better port match and runner setup but none to be found cheap or otherwise when I decided to swap things around.
I also have a SP2P that needs the heat crossover fixed where it rotted through from sitting around or something that I'd like to try just for the increased MPG it should give with the TINY runners it uses.
The best MPG I ever got was 12.79 in town with the bone stock combo on the original 318 in the Dart. I pulled down 12 a few times with the streetmaster and get 10 or 11 with the combo now seeing how I can never keep my foot outa it.
It could pull down 21 to 22 on the highway on a good day.
I don't drive it anymore what with gas so high and it being worth too much even in daily beater shape and use my 95 Neon.
I bought one of these intakes at a local swap here for 35 bucks one year


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So the deal fell thru bc the seller saw similar on eBay at a crazy price and now thinks his is worth gold bc it's in " better" condition ...




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