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318 rering or not????????????
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I'm currently building a plow truck. have a 85 318 tore down going to bearing it, cam and chain and put some rebuilt 360 heads on it.Question being would it be worth it to rering with lets say total seal rings ? motor had 90,000 on it when pulled.thanks,Nate
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Re: 318 rering or not????????????
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pistons in yet.... don't have a bore scope,inside mic. to check.Finish is smooth with no cross hatch I checked in as far as my caliper would reach and it was 3.9 I want too say I would say that would be too close to top though.nate
Trucks/cars there all MOPARS
98 w2500 cummins24v5spd
85 w350 crew/short360
78 w150 shortfact.440 with upgrades
87 w150 soon to be new snowfighter
75 duster.... project since1999... never to be completed
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Re: 318 rering or not????????????
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12/23/11 05:20 PM
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Buy a moly ring set. Carefully cut the ridge. break it in hard to seat the moly rings on the smooth finish, change oil/filter & put it in use. Read "breakin secrets" at www.mototuneusa.com
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Re: 318 rering or not????????????
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carefully cut ridge????? I assume you mean hone? Interesting article thanks, Nate
Trucks/cars there all MOPARS
98 w2500 cummins24v5spd
85 w350 crew/short360
78 w150 shortfact.440 with upgrades
87 w150 soon to be new snowfighter
75 duster.... project since1999... never to be completed
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Re: 318 rering or not????????????
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12/23/11 07:48 PM
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carefully cut ridge????? I assume you mean hone? Interesting article thanks, Nate
Is the block on a stand or in the truck... I would
change rings... hit it with a ball hone/deglazer,
gap the rings and install
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Re: 318 rering or not????????????
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on the stand..... having a hard time finding rings for some reason
Trucks/cars there all MOPARS
98 w2500 cummins24v5spd
85 w350 crew/short360
78 w150 shortfact.440 with upgrades
87 w150 soon to be new snowfighter
75 duster.... project since1999... never to be completed
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Re: 318 rering or not????????????
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12/23/11 08:21 PM
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you may loose low end torque with the 360 hesds. They have a larger combustion chamber..
I am truckless..
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Re: 318 rering or not????????????
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12/23/11 08:52 PM
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carefully cut ridge????? I assume you mean hone? Interesting article thanks, Nate
No - cutting out the ridge requires a special ridge cutter tool.
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Re: 318 rering or not????????????
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carefully cut ridge????? I assume you mean hone? Interesting article thanks, Nate
No - cutting out the ridge requires a special ridge cutter tool.
Yep... if there is a ridge you need to rent a ridge
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Re: 318 rering or not????????????
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A worn bore and a backyard hone'n're-ring job, I would be using plain old cast rings, not moly. Moly coated rings seal better and break in quicker but they are not as forgiving on a worn bore as cast rings. Hastings cast rings are a good choice for these types of builds IMO.
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most 85 318 with roller cam #302 heads had the moly rings stock.
they do well on bore wear and tappor,MY 300,00 mile 88 is still in specs for a rering with used pistons.
i will slap a set of stock cast rings in wafter a dingle ball hone job to clean them up some.
if its in specs its in specs for a re-ring 
i may not get another 300,00 but another 150,000 will work for the price.
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Re: 318 rering or not????????????
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A worn bore and a backyard hone'n're-ring job, I would be using plain old cast rings, not moly. Moly coated rings seal better and break in quicker but they are not as forgiving on a worn bore as cast rings. Hastings cast rings are a good choice for these types of builds IMO.
100%
most 85 318 with roller cam #302 heads had the moly rings stock.
they do well on bore wear and tappor,MY 300,00 mile 88 is still in specs for a rering with used pistons.
i will slap a set of stock cast rings in wafter a dingle ball hone job to clean them up some.
if its in specs its in specs for a re-ring
i may not get another 300,00 but another 150,000 will work for the price.
Yeah with the nickle content that the blocks have had
for a number of years it isnt the block that wears
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Re: 318 rering or not????????????
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12/23/11 11:01 PM
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A worn bore and a backyard hone'n're-ring job, I would be using plain old cast rings, not moly. Moly coated rings seal better and break in quicker but they are not as forgiving on a worn bore as cast rings. Hastings cast rings are a good choice for these types of builds IMO.
100%
most 85 318 with roller cam #302 heads had the moly rings stock.
they do well on bore wear and tappor,MY 300,00 mile 88 is still in specs for a rering with used pistons.
i will slap a set of stock cast rings in wafter a dingle ball hone job to clean them up some.
if its in specs its in specs for a re-ring
i may not get another 300,00 but another 150,000 will work for the price.
Yeah with the nickle content that the blocks have had
for a number of years it isnt the block that wears
Plus the blocks that came factory with the moly rings wear the bores a lot less than the regular cast rings did. However that's not to say than an engine that came with moly rings from the factory is guaranteed to still have bores that would meet the requirements for a new set of moly rings.
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Re: 318 rering or not????????????
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12/24/11 10:18 AM
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hone and put new rings in...
when I did my 318, the local carquest charged $8/bore to toss it on their machine and hone it.
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Re: 318 rering or not????????????
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Well,thanks for replies.I don't want to bore it cause I know where that will lead.....if your going that far you might as well line bore and turn crank etc. its just a 318 for a plow truck using up some parts to make a better than junkyard engine.Mancini has rings they didn't have cam I wanted so Jegs got my business, but they didn't have rings...so northen will be sending out rings. Guess I will go with cast. Will break in be the same with cast? Wish I had a local machine shop that would hone for me. Newbe to the hone ridge cuttting world. Thanks,Nate
Trucks/cars there all MOPARS
98 w2500 cummins24v5spd
85 w350 crew/short360
78 w150 shortfact.440 with upgrades
87 w150 soon to be new snowfighter
75 duster.... project since1999... never to be completed
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