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HVH Super Suckers... #1139252
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Are they worth it or just snake oil?


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Re: HVH Super Suckers... [Re: tboomer] #1139253
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Good question,T-Boom! I'd like to see some dyno-testing results....preferably on a .040 over 440 with cnc-ported Eddy Performer RPM's..M-1 intake..950 Holley..solid flat tappet cam with 260 duration @ .050,.600-.620 lift,and 2"x 3.5"collector headers!

Re: HVH Super Suckers... [Re: Labratt] #1139254
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I have a 1 inch one for a dominator let go cheap you could try.


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Re: HVH Super Suckers... [Re: Labratt] #1139255
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Hi,Randy! The reason I ask is they are not cheap! My current setup is a Mr.G 4500 to 4150 intake on a Victor...My spacer is 2"....


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Re: HVH Super Suckers... [Re: tboomer] #1139256
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Are they worth it or just snake oil?



Just like every other spacer, it depends on the combination as to whether they show an improvement.

Re: HVH Super Suckers... [Re: BradH] #1139257
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Yes it is just trial and error to see if it works for your setup. I had a wilson tappered spacer on my old motor (4150) and it would pick up .05.


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Re: HVH Super Suckers... [Re: 1967dartgt] #1139258
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I also looked into the Wilson 1 1/2" 4500 to 4150 intake spacer...I n reality it would be nice to test both! However...Money says I can only try one!


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Re: HVH Super Suckers... [Re: tboomer] #1139259
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Most published dyno results show an improvement greater than testing error.
R.

Re: HVH Super Suckers... [Re: dogdays] #1139260
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We tested a 2" one at the end of the season on the 512RB and no change in ET or 60ft, mph, nada. For the record though, we only run a 950 carb, and the intake has a fairly large plenum. I look forward to testing it on my 408 stroker next season. That intake has a small plenum, and I suspect it will pick-up.

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Re: HVH Super Suckers... [Re: Dragula] #1139261
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I have just bought an alloy 2" supersucker for $60 new off RJ. I intend to try it first meet out next year but will swap at the track and jet to see what it likes, 2 engine guys on here highly recommended them, one being Dwayne.
Randy my set up is very similar to yours engine wise.
Mick


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Re: HVH Super Suckers... [Re: Dragula] #1139262
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I plan to back to back a 2" HVH on my 414 with a ported Victor 340 and Stage 2 Shady Dell E heads in the early spring. As said it's trial and error, I think it might have been Joe Sherman that tested one that picked up Hp, and when he was taking it off he discovered he installed it upside-down.


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Re: HVH Super Suckers... [Re: tboomer] #1139263
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I also looked into the Wilson 1 1/2" 4500 to 4150 intake spacer...I n reality it would be nice to test both! However...Money says I can only try one!




he ted pm Doctor Doug aka 69chargermd i think he is useing one on the 65.but i dont remember if he picked up any or not with it on his car.Mopar65


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Re: HVH Super Suckers... [Re: mopar65] #1139264
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I also looked into the Wilson 1 1/2" 4500 to 4150 intake spacer...I n reality it would be nice to test both! However...Money says I can only try one!




he ted pm Doctor Doug aka 69chargermd i think he is useing one on the 65.but i dont remember if he picked up any or not with it on his car.Mopar65




2" super sicker spacer 572 B1 picked up 16HP on the dyno. Thet's the only real dyno info I have.

Re: HVH Super Suckers... [Re: camastomcat] #1139265
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Maybe Quick D100 of Dave's performance will chime in. On Dave's Dyno
My 512 made only 4 more hp but 20 more ft. lbs. tq. with the 2" super sucker.

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Re: HVH Super Suckers... [Re: tboomer] #1139266
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I also looked into the Wilson 1 1/2" 4500 to 4150 intake spacer...I n reality it would be nice to test both! However...Money says I can only try one!




Ted,
I have one of Wilson's 1 1/2" adapters if you want to try it,it is just an open spacer/adapter,if that is what you are looking at.
I also have one of the 2" Moroso(I believe) adapters,just let me know.
Keith

Re: HVH Super Suckers... [Re: tboomer] #1139267
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Carb spacers almost always pick up power on the dyno. I run a custom built 4 inch carb spacer on the bigger motors on the dyno just for that reason.

They sometimes don't work quite as well on a car unless the accel pump is reworked for additional volume.

Trial and error is the only way to find out.

Re: HVH Super Suckers... [Re: tboomer] #1139268
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Are they worth it or just snake oil?


I tried one once and she was INCREDIBLE......


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Re: HVH Super Suckers... [Re: Thumperdart] #1139269
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2" Dominator to 4150 adapter did nothing for me. The HVH one that is, I went back to the Moroso open adapter.

Re: HVH Super Suckers... [Re: 540dust] #1139270
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Thanks everyone for the info! Keith...That is a nice offer but I would rather buy my own...Won't do anything over the winter...


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Re: HVH Super Suckers... [Re: tboomer] #1139271
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A 1" HVH was worth about a tenth and 1 mph on my old 446" Indy SR headed combo. That motor had a Team G manifold and a 1050 dominator on it.
Didn't gain anything on my hemi w/ the Ray Barton manifold. Haven't tried it yet on the Indy manifold.


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