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Look out Challenger DP and CJ Stangs - UPDATE #1128158 12/05/11 04:55 PM 12/05/11 04:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 581 Detroit, MI David Hakim OP super street
David Hakim OP super street Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 581 Detroit, MI	GM guys turned it loose after PRI. It should be intersting to see how the COPO does in A/SA and AA/SA. There's even a bigger blower for the 5.3L that (according to GM) puts it in SS/AA. 2012 Indy will be fun! http://www.competitionplus.com/drag-racing/news/19741-the-copo-camaro-hits-the-drag-strip 6952187-COPOTestSession.jpg (162 downloads) Last edited by David Hakim; 12/06/11 12:43 AM.

Re: Look out Challenger DP and CJ Stangs! [Re: David Hakim] #1128159 12/05/11 05:22 PM 12/05/11 05:22 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,763 Walton's Mountain, Pa Steve1118 master
Steve1118 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,763 Walton's Mountain, Pa	David, do you think that at some point in time Chrysler will put blowers on the Hemis and v10's? It seems to be the thing to do. Personally, I am not crazy about blown motors in the stock classes...but, I guess if one has to do it... "Old age and treachery trumps youth and enthusiasm, every time!" East Central Director / Chrysler Power Magazine www.reasbeckracing.webs.com

Re: Look out Challenger DP and CJ Stangs! [Re: David Hakim] #1128160 12/05/11 05:25 PM 12/05/11 05:25 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,998 GO BUCKS !!!!!!! 3 340RICK master
340RICK master 3 Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,998 GO BUCKS !!!!!!!	This would be a welcome site. I would not care if I ever see a another Cobalt. The only bad thing about these new SS and Stockers is they are killing the old school cars, they dont have a chance.

Re: Look out Challenger DP and CJ Stangs! [Re: 340RICK] #1128161 12/05/11 05:50 PM 12/05/11 05:50 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 581 Detroit, MI David Hakim OP super street
David Hakim OP super street Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 581 Detroit, MI	According to GM, the NA 427/LS7 fits in A/SA, SC 5.3L runs AA/SA and the SC 5.3L with the bigger blower runs SS/AA. I'm curious on how the NHRA horsepower "fudge" factors will be on the COPO. 6952267-CopoTestSession002.PNG (65 downloads) Last edited by David Hakim; 12/05/11 05:53 PM.

Re: Look out Challenger DP and CJ Stangs! [Re: David Hakim] #1128162 12/05/11 06:02 PM 12/05/11 06:02 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	I seen that car being build local to me

Re: Look out Challenger DP and CJ Stangs! [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1128163 12/05/11 06:23 PM 12/05/11 06:23 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 581 Detroit, MI David Hakim OP super street
David Hakim OP super street Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 581 Detroit, MI	Mike P. built the COPO prototype (along with the DP and CJ mules). He's quite talented.

Re: Look out Challenger DP and CJ Stangs! [Re: David Hakim] #1128164 12/05/11 09:44 PM 12/05/11 09:44 PM
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 833 MN hemidup super stock
hemidup super stock Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 833 MN	Quote: According to GM, the NA 427/LS7 fits in A/SA, SC 5.3L runs AA/SA and the SC 5.3L with the bigger blower runs SS/AA. I'm curious on how the NHRA horsepower "fudge" factors will be on the COPO. Same as in the old days of yore. Takes a NA 427 Camaro in A/SA to be in the same class and contention as a NA 345 cubed Hemi Challenger DP. Jerry Williams.

Re: Look out Challenger DP and CJ Stangs! [Re: David Hakim] #1128165 12/05/11 09:52 PM 12/05/11 09:52 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Mike P. built the COPO prototype (along with the DP and CJ mules). He's quite talented. Yeah I was at his place getting some tubing and seen it... my buddy was with me and wanted to take some pics but Mike said NO WAY

Re: Look out Challenger DP and CJ Stangs! [Re: David Hakim] #1128166 12/05/11 10:45 PM 12/05/11 10:45 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,840 The Swamp S Sixpak master
Sixpak master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,840 The Swamp	Time for NHRA to step up and add some new classes to stock and super stock to cover the blown cars from the factory. Might as well throw the stock turbo cars in there as well.

Re: Look out Challenger DP and CJ Stangs! [Re: David Hakim] #1128167 12/05/11 10:57 PM 12/05/11 10:57 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 641 Bergen County NJ N NoJoke mopar
NoJoke mopar N Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 641 Bergen County NJ	Quote: GM guys turned it loose after PRI. It should be intersting to see how the COPO does in A/SA and AA/SA. There's even a bigger blower for the 5.3L that (according to GM) puts it in SS/AA. 2012 Indy will be fun! http://www.competitionplus.com/drag-racing/news/19741-the-copo-camaro-hits-the-drag-strip Im not a chevy guy but that car looks bad azz...

Re: Look out Challenger DP and CJ Stangs! [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1128168 12/05/11 10:59 PM 12/05/11 10:59 PM
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 833 MN hemidup super stock
hemidup super stock Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 833 MN	Quote: Quote: Mike P. built the COPO prototype (along with the DP and CJ mules). He's quite talented. Yeah I was at his place getting some tubing and seen it... my buddy was with me and wanted to take some pics but Mike said NO WAY Shared some pit time with Mike at Indy last fall. I started talking about whether the new Camaro's were indeed coming out. He put his index finger up to his lips and with a shusss said... I'm building the 1st one. lol Jerry Williams.

Re: Look out Challenger DP and CJ Stangs! [Re: Sixpak] #1128169 12/05/11 11:13 PM 12/05/11 11:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,182 Park Forest, IL slantzilla Too Many Posts
slantzilla Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,182 Park Forest, IL	Quote: Time for NHRA to step up and add some new classes to stock and super stock to cover the blown cars from the factory. Might as well throw the stock turbo cars in there as well. They already have. 3 new Stock classes and 1 SS class for 2012. As for the CJ and DP cars "killing" all the older cars, Other than some class and heads-up runs, the newer cars are not dominating anything. Some of the combinations either had already become SS only, or were only 1 hit away. My buddy Mike Jeffrey won the Aeromotive Low Qualifier award for Division 5 this year with a Slant 6 car, and he had Charlie Blossom and a ton of CJ/DP cars to try to outqualify all year. "Everybody funny, now you funny too."

Re: Look out Challenger DP and CJ Stangs! [Re: slantzilla] #1128170 12/06/11 12:33 AM 12/06/11 12:33 AM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,031 Raleigh N.C H hemiparts "Missile Pilot"
hemiparts "Missile Pilot" H Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,031 Raleigh N.C	got to see it in person @ PRI, it is one bad ride. For any one who thinks the horsepower wars of Detroit are dead all you had to do was go to the PRI show. About 2 or 3 rows over from the COPO was the new CJ mustang drag car and then a few more rows over was Garlits new Drag Pak Challenger. I agree with David Indy this year should be wild. Think i'll hop over to classracer and see if they are falling out dead over another "new car " in stock and super stock..

Re: Look out Challenger DP and CJ Stangs! [Re: hemiparts] #1128171 12/06/11 12:41 AM 12/06/11 12:41 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 581 Detroit, MI David Hakim OP super street
David Hakim OP super street Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 581 Detroit, MI	Here's an update from COPO test session from Bradenton with the 5.3L SC motor. After nine runs, the best pass was 9.69 at 140 mph with a mild 1.40 sixty-foot time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Lm0356tFRMI Here the GM guys are swapping motors and dropping in the NA 427/7.0L LS7 piece for tomorrows test session 6953093-COPOTestSession.jpg (58 downloads) Last edited by David Hakim; 12/06/11 12:48 AM.

Re: Look out Challenger DP and CJ Stangs - UPDATE [Re: David Hakim] #1128172 12/06/11 08:35 AM 12/06/11 08:35 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 830 east coast Otherlane super stock
Otherlane super stock Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 830 east coast	i dont know to much about these classes on these cars but i talked with a guys with a white and black challenger v10 and said his car has the record cant remember what record but i think it went 9.20 0r 30s.will the car be in the same class? if so the chevy doesnt have a chance.Also i am diehard mopar man BUT i dont see anything better up on the mustang just to much go fast stuff for them

Re: Look out Challenger DP and CJ Stangs! [Re: David Hakim] #1128173 12/06/11 10:12 AM 12/06/11 10:12 AM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy J joshking440 Lunch is on me!
joshking440 Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	David, were you there? I was there sunday and spoke with gm's head of the program and he was very adamant that the clocks would be off and that they would have a crew there from their team doing the reporting so they could control the information on the times. I have some rear suspension pics I can post up that I took at pri

Re: Look out Challenger DP and CJ Stangs! [Re: slantzilla] #1128174 12/06/11 11:28 AM 12/06/11 11:28 AM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 614 Michigan G Get-X mopar
Get-X mopar G Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 614 Michigan	Quote: Quote: Time for NHRA to step up and add some new classes to stock and super stock to cover the blown cars from the factory. Might as well throw the stock turbo cars in there as well. They already have. 3 new Stock classes and 1 SS class for 2012. As for the CJ and DP cars "killing" all the older cars, Other than some class and heads-up runs, the newer cars are not dominating anything. Some of the combinations either had already become SS only, or were only 1 hit away. My buddy Mike Jeffrey won the Aeromotive Low Qualifier award for Division 5 this year with a Slant 6 car, and he had Charlie Blossom and a ton of CJ/DP cars to try to outqualify all year. "Other than some class and heads-up runs", you're kidding right? Why else would you build a stocker or SS'er if not for class and heads-up runs LOL! Otherwise it's just another bracket race. '65 Belvedere '68 GTX '57 Dodge pickup

Re: Look out Challenger DP and CJ Stangs! [Re: Get-X] #1128175 12/06/11 10:21 PM 12/06/11 10:21 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,182 Park Forest, IL slantzilla Too Many Posts
slantzilla Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,182 Park Forest, IL	Quote: "Other than some class and heads-up runs", you're kidding right? Why else would you build a stocker or SS'er if not for class and heads-up runs LOL! Otherwise it's just another bracket race. That's right, Stock and Super Stock are nothing but a bracket race (and have been since the '70's) because if it were a true heads-up race nobody would show up. If you're only reason for building a class car is because you want to win heads-up races, you better be prepared to be disappointed a lot. Any combo that runs more than 1.00 under is gonna get hit. Any combo that can't run 1.00 under ain't gonna win too many heads-up races anyway. "Everybody funny, now you funny too."

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