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Re: Overheating/Water flow Question [Re: RapidRobert] #1120627
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Actually before you put the new stat in take it out & see if it pukes in 10 minutes. We gotta ID the prob before we go any farther. I wont go into why you need the stat but it's critical and I highly suggest you drill a 1/16" hole in the flat just outside the center "mechanism" section for easier fillups. Keep us posted. EDIT get a 180 stat (no less than 180)



I actually have been reading other posts about why you need a stat and think I have a better understanding of the cooling system now.

I will drive the car around the block tomorrow and see where we end up.

Thanks for helping me troubleshoot this.

Re: Overheating/Water flow Question [Re: HelleOnWheels] #1120628
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I'm hoping tomorrow you holler back w some good news


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Re: Overheating/Water flow Question [Re: HelleOnWheels] #1120629
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I removed the stat and put the water neck back on and started the car. I saw an immediate "river" flowing through the radiator. I am going to get a new stat and gasket tomorrow.




Put your stat in a pot of water on the stove...
use your wifes meat temp probe and see when the
stat opens

Re: Overheating/Water flow Question [Re: RapidRobert] #1120630
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I'm hoping tomorrow you holler back w some good news




I think I have good news

I put in a new gasket without a thermostat and refilled the fluid. I filled it to approx. 1 inch below the cap. Let the car warm up and idle in the garage for over 10 mins and then took it out for a drive. I ended up driving around for over 20 mins in 70 degree weather and stopped a few times to check things out. The car never seemed to get very hot and only had a few drops of fluid coming out of the overflow hose. I took a thermometer with me to take true readings and it never seemed to get above 165 degrees(checking water flowing across the top of the radiator after removing cap). I put the cap back on and drove it more. After 30 mins, I took it back to the house and it never spewed out anything.

Remember, this was running without a stat.

Does that operating temp sound too low for this scenario or is that about right?

I am planning on driving it to the car show tomorrow if everything goes ok.

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Re: Overheating/Water flow Question [Re: HelleOnWheels] #1120631
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again..... you should be fine. i would think 165 on a 70 degree day is ok. without the stat there are issues to be considered but nothing that would stop you from your car show swap meet quest!

Re: Overheating/Water flow Question [Re: HelleOnWheels] #1120632
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I think I have good news


That is good news. Press on the valve in the center of the new stat back & forth a few times just to confirm it's free on the pin & toss it in before or after the show. I'd want at least 180 operating temp before the stat opens. What temp stat did you get?. 2 minutes to drill the ~1/16" hole you'll be glad you did with the easier fillup it will afford you.


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Re: Overheating/Water flow Question [Re: RapidRobert] #1120633
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What temp stat did you get?. 2 minutes to drill the ~1/16" hole you'll be glad you did with the easier fillup it will afford you.




I could only find a 195 degree thermostat in stock locally.

Where would you drill this hole?

Re: Overheating/Water flow Question [Re: HelleOnWheels] #1120634
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a 195 will work for you. Drill it in the flat just outside of the center "mechanism" about halfway between the edge of the mechanism wall and the perimeter of the stat itself. It does not have to be exact.


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Re: Overheating/Water flow Question [Re: RapidRobert] #1120635
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180. NAPA. Superstat. No holes needed.

Re: Overheating/Water flow Question [Re: RapidRobert] #1120636
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a 195 will work for you. Drill it in the flat just outside of the center "mechanism" about halfway between the edge of the mechanism wall and the perimeter of the stat itself. It does not have to be exact.




just opened the new stat to inspect it and noticed that it already has a weep hole drilled in the flange.

Thanks

Re: Overheating/Water flow Question [Re: HelleOnWheels] #1120637
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with no recov tank you should have a non-vented rad cap

replace the old one that you used on the new rad,most likly it will tend to leak as the rubber is old.IMO

install the stat and fill it up drive it till it stops puking each time you stop,it will find its own fill level..when it does note it for future referance when adding or refilling the rad later.

it all sound good to me other than the old cap and overfilling.

Re: Overheating/Water flow Question [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1120638
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and despite our best efforts, he made it to his show ! story is over in the 'general' section.

Re: Overheating/Water flow Question [Re: mikemee1331] #1120639
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and despite our best efforts, he made it to his show ! story is over in the 'general' section.




Nothing was gonna keep me from my first car show in 12 years!!!!! I left the stat out and made a boogie for the race track

Things went perfect and I even got a picture of the car on the track at Daytona International Speedway

Thanks to all of my Moparts mechanic friends, we now have another survivor back on the road!!

Re: Overheating/Water flow Question [Re: HelleOnWheels] #1120640
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Good deal. Post any developments


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Re: Overheating/Water flow Question [Re: RapidRobert] #1120641
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I am probably going to schedule an appt. with a brake shop and have them do a check up on the system. I heard there is a guy at a brake shop near me who specializes in older cars and he said he would do a safety inspection and adjustment/power bleed if necessary.

Since it was my first brake job I want to make sure everything is functioning properly.

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What about the stat, is the new one in/running acceptable temps? EDIT Oh you musta posted that in the general post which I missed

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Re: Overheating/Water flow Question [Re: RapidRobert] #1120643
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I'd like to hear more about the stat too. Stand by, I have to get over my Vertigo and drill a hole in my thermostat. All this while hundreds of new Callengers pass by my driveway. No wait, wrong thread.

Re: Overheating/Water flow Question [Re: HelleOnWheels] #1120644
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I am probably going to schedule an appt. with a brake shop and have them do a check up on the system. I heard there is a guy at a brake shop near me who specializes in older cars and he said he would do a safety inspection and adjustment/power bleed if necessary.

Since it was my first brake job I want to make sure everything is functioning properly.




I think I just hi-jacked my own thread!!!

I have been staying up so late in the garage working, I just realized that I posted about the brake job on the overheating/stat post!!!

Alright...here we go.....I ordered a new 180 stat and it should be in tomorrow or Wednesday. I wont really have time to install it and run around in it until later this week. I decided to use that temp stat instead of the 195. I will post how it turns out and some temperature readings this weekend.

Re: Overheating/Water flow Question [Re: HelleOnWheels] #1120645
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You are still over filling the rad.Just put in enough to cover the inside holes.Trust me,thats all you need.After all this if you over fill it it will just spew again if overfilled.

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You are still over filling the rad.Just put in enough to cover the inside holes.Trust me,thats all you need.After all this if you over fill it it will just spew again if overfilled.




I am not overfilling it. I only put in just enough to cover the ribs/holes and nothing more. I have already learned and gotten over my feelings that I have to keep it topped off

Thanks

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