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63/65 rear axle
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11/22/11 06:34 PM
11/22/11 06:34 PM
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Billy no mates
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Guys,
I'm sure this question must have been asked before. Other than the axle lengths what's to stop the axles & brakes from a 65 axle fitting into a 63 axle case? Is it possible?
Thanks Billy
BillyNoMates
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Re: 63/65 rear axle
[Re: Billy no mates]
#1119390
11/22/11 08:23 PM
11/22/11 08:23 PM
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Rio Linda, CA
John_Kunkel
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B-body or C-body? If you're asking about the B-body, the '65 axles are about 1/2" too long for the '63 housing.
The brakes would fit with the proper length axles and Green bearings.
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Re: 63/65 rear axle
[Re: Billy no mates]
#1119391
11/22/11 09:28 PM
11/22/11 09:28 PM
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Kent, Wa
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two totally different axles..
the 63 has the tapered/keywaued axle, the drums have the hub swedged to them. and the bearings are smaller in outer diameter.
the 65 has the separate drums and hubs like all the 8 3/4 rears till 74
I am truckless..
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Re: 63/65 rear axle
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11/23/11 01:10 AM
11/23/11 01:10 AM
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Quote:
FWIW, my '63 & '64 housings were different widths. Both had the tapered axles, of course.
'62-3 are the same and the most narrow, the '65 housing is more narrow than the '64 ('64 MW cars used the '62-3 housing).
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Re: 63/65 rear axle
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#1119397
11/23/11 01:44 AM
11/23/11 01:44 AM
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Quote:
Aren't the 1965, 1966, and 1967 B-bodies rears the same width?
No, the '66-67 housings are 1/4" narrower than the '65. ('65=54.5"/'66-7=54 1/4")
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Re: 63/65 rear axle
[Re: DoctorDiff]
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11/23/11 02:46 AM
11/23/11 02:46 AM
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Quote:
'65-'67 housings are identical (54.25" end to end).
BTW, I sell new, 1 piece, high-strength axle shafts for any '62 and newer housing ($300 pair with studs and green bearings installed).
Dr.Diff,
I got the measurements I posted above from the "Guide to the Chrysler 8 3/4 rear" chart, I haven't checked all of the measurements, since I don't have every axle housing variation, but, the five different housings I checked against it were quite accurate. I'll keep your info handy though.
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Re: 63/65 rear axle
[Re: 383man]
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11/23/11 09:48 AM
11/23/11 09:48 AM
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Niles , Ohio
therocks
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oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
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Ron just get the 65 axles.The long studs fit the axles.My kid runs my 65 axle in his 62 300 with long studs.Been in for at least 5 years now.When we scrap the 66 Charger Im pulling the rear as a spare for my 65 which has a 69 R/T rear now.Rocky
Chrysler Firepower
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Re: 63/65 rear axle
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11/23/11 07:16 PM
11/23/11 07:16 PM
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JohnRR
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Quote:
With the exception of the shallower axle seal bore, '62-'64 housing ends are the same as the newer version. In other words, you must run a narrower wheel bearing lock ring to clear the inner seal.
Correct housing widths are listed in Moparts Tech Archives as well as Hollander's Interchange.
B-body housing widths (end to end):
'62-'63= 53 1/4" (And '64 Max Wedge)
'64 = 55 5/8" (Exc. Max Wedge)
'65-'67= 54 1/4"
'68-'70= 54 15/16"
All these housings share the same perch dimensions (44" on center, pinion 4 degrees up when perches are level).
Where do you get the narrower wheel bearing lock ring ? Could a person use a tapered bearing in that 62-63 housing with the narrower ring ?
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Re: 63/65 rear axle
[Re: JohnRR]
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11/23/11 09:10 PM
11/23/11 09:10 PM
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John_Kunkel
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Never knew a narrower collar was available. To me, the only reason to use the Green bearings on this installation is to be able to remove the inner seal and not have to worry about seal/collar interference.
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