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Re: would you brake in a engine with a new six pack? [Re: cjs69mope] #1119166
11/23/11 09:35 AM
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1st six-pack? You're gonna love it.

Re: would you brake in a engine with a new six pack? [Re: cjs69mope] #1119167
11/23/11 08:15 PM
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Also use old headers to break in your new motor.


O come on There is nothing like watching a brand new set of headers turn cherry red especialy when they are coated.




Yup that happened to me with my new 6 pak motor running during break in. Then I read TTI instructions to use old headers foor break in. Damn why didn't I read them first?




broke my 440-6 in w/ my el-cheapo headers that I stripped and used VHT paint on and they still look great.



The cherry hot headers is a weird thing because i broke in my 493 with tti's and they did not get like that but i have a roller cam in that motor . and 850 deamon was running at about 11.5 a/f then HA HA.
On our 383 hydraulic cam motor it did turn cherry red i assume the timing was retarded and lean to cause that .







I've always broke in my engines, or customers engines, whether I've built them or not with the carbs intended for the engine, never "smoked" a set of fresh painted or plated headers, TTI's or others...even broke in 3 HEMIs with my custom made 6 pack induction systems, and TTI ceramic coated headers as well,...no issues, if you set the engine up right, and double check everything, you should be able to light it off instantly, and bring it up to a steady 2000 RPM for a 20-30 minute run, best to have the engine plumbed with a vac gauge, timing lite, tach, oil pressure gauge, also a hand held infared to check surface temps, I like to install a thermalcouple temporarly in the water sending unit, I don't like relying on dash gauges for break-in info

Mike

Re: would you brake in a engine with a new six pack? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1119168
11/23/11 09:08 PM
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1st six-pack? You're gonna love it.






I thought Dual Quads on an engine with 8000 miles was a handful....but a sick pak fresh on a motor....I dunno...

I plan on breaking my 505 in with the Performer RPM manifold and a single 750...then do my 500 miles and switch back to the existing setup now...

Good luck with your quest


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Re: would you brake in a engine with a new six pack? [Re: Pyper70] #1119169
11/23/11 09:36 PM
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1st six-pack? You're gonna love it.






I thought Dual Quads on an engine with 8000 miles was a handful....but a sick pak fresh on a motor....I dunno...

I plan on breaking my 505 in with the Performer RPM manifold and a single 750...then do my 500 miles and switch back to the existing setup now...

Good luck with your quest




?? I was a 6-pack virgin when I bought mine. I had zero problems with setting it up. Even with the new aluminum headed solid roller cam engine. I just guesstimated and it worked just fine. Lucky I guess. It flat out halls tail, the response is instant. And I have a stock, piece.

Re: would you brake in a engine with a new six pack? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1119170
11/23/11 09:59 PM
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For the purpose of break-in a six pack is just a 2 barrel. The outboard carbs should not play a part.

Why is this an issue???

Re: would you brake in a engine with a new six pack? [Re: cjs69mope] #1119171
11/24/11 02:24 AM
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What is the general thoughts on this ?


You're not together yet & on iron OE heads I'd mill the heads' intake faces till the intake/head port interface is dead on w the thickness of intake gasket you plan to run so the intake is not married to that eng. But since the heads and the intake are special high dollar alum items if they are flat I would not mill them & I'd get custom thickness Cometic intakets to achieve perfect alignment so these high dollar pieces stay unmolested. No opinion on if should try it w the 6 pack, I prob would & get everything dead on & if it wouldn't fire off immed then I'd swap the intake/carb & regoop the cam at the same time. Do ya feel lucky? well do ya I'd have all the prep spot on. fuel delievery/spark working/timing ~10, 15 if wild cam/stat out/(3) helpers/shop fan/front jacked up (air pockets)/rear wheels just off ground & start in drive to load it/ read "breakin secrets" at www.mototuneusa.com. You in drivers seat to monitor gauges/shout orders. Any issues/leaks shut it down clean/immediately/fix it & restart to 2500rpm. 1 helper adds trans fluid 1 helper turns dist to get 36 total (vac adv plugged) 1 helper checks for leaks up top 1 helper checks for leaks underneath

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Re: would you brake in a engine with a new six pack? [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #1119172
11/24/11 05:08 PM
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For the purpose of break-in a six pack is just a 2 barrel. The outboard carbs should not play a part.

Why is this an issue???


and with Yuck......... disconnect the outboards, wire the throttles closed and fire her up!

Re: would you brake in a engine with a new six pack? [Re: mikemee1331] #1119173
11/24/11 05:20 PM
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I fired my new engine with my 6 pack and had no problems. Was able to fine tune the carbs at the same time.

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