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Re: Screw NHRA ! Rant----
[Re: slantzilla]
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11/12/11 12:47 AM
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Phil Saran
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My helmet expires this year. My two year old belts are expiring
and because of $$ problems the car never made it out of the garage
and now I've given up my NHRA membership too.
Time to work on the car and sit out and save money.
Phil Saran
Parker, Colorado
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Re: Screw NHRA ! Rant----
[Re: slantzilla]
#1110652
11/12/11 01:12 AM
11/12/11 01:12 AM
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B1KILLER
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I'm all for safety, my car has been sitting for 2 yrs, when ever I get it back on the road have to replace everything, suck to go fast, maybe I'll slow it down to a 10 second car  But fast is fun n costly 
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Re: Screw NHRA ! Rant----
[Re: Twostick]
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11/12/11 01:22 AM
11/12/11 01:22 AM
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dOOc
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...and when this topic has come up before .... someone mentioned that the belts on FIGHTER JETS have a "life" of ... IIRC ... THREE TIMES of the mandate of the SEMA(NHRA).
And it was mentioned that these jets subject the belts to at least TWICE the G-forces that of a TF or FC.
It is just a big money-grab... 
The reason the airforce can do that is because the pilot can't sue the airforce if the belts fail. The NHRA does it for 1 reason; due diligence. The $$$ part is just a collateral bonus.
Kevin
K-Guy from SEARSandROEBUCK .... 
Do you think the AF is going to cheap-out on a MULTImillion dollar airplane ?
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Re: Screw NHRA ! Rant----
[Re: beezer]
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11/12/11 04:31 AM
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If the 2" belts in your 15 year old street car failed and you were injured in an accident the manufacturer would be settling with you in a heartbeat so as not to be sued for everything they're worth . This in a car that sits outside in all kinds of weather. I fail to see where a 3" set of belts in a car that is outside only when it is at the track can go bad in only 2 years.
Same thing with a guy that never pulls his car out of a garage in 2 years--your new , never even worn belts are no good.
What a scam.
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Re: Screw NHRA ! Rant----
[Re: beezer]
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11/12/11 12:27 PM
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daniel_depetro
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I fail to see where a 3" set of belts in a car that is outside only when it is at the track can go bad in only 2 years.
They have to make everyone follow the same rules. They have no idea who's car sits outside all year long and who's doesn't. Granted this day in age it's pretty rare to see a drag car sitting outside for any length of time but they have to assume the worst case scenarios.
1969 Dodge Super Bee A12 (440 Six Pack, 4-speed, Dana 60 4.10)
1972 Plymouth Road Runner (400, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23)
1974 Plymouth Duster 360 (360, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23)
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Re: Screw NHRA ! Rant----
[Re: daniel_depetro]
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11/12/11 01:24 PM
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Wheels up, MO
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I fail to see where a 3" set of belts in a car that is outside only when it is at the track can go bad in only 2 years.
They have to make everyone follow the same rules. They have no idea who's car sits outside all year but they have to assume the worst case scenarios.
No...... they don't. They have no idea how many times someone puts their safety pants and jacket through an industrial washing machine, ruining the fire retardant properties.
They have decided window nets, also exposed to the same elements, no longer expire. (except the mesh ones) They allow you to put a ten year old helmet on your head, complete with a ten year old strap that gets used just as much as your seat belts and also could be sitting outside all year.
We all know the seat belt rule is bs. They know it, we know it. But there is nothing any of us can do about it, so they will get my money and they will get yours too. 
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Re: Screw NHRA ! Rant----
[Re: dOOc]
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11/12/11 01:47 PM
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daniel_depetro
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ALL THIS reminds me of that guy that had that uNdefenseable position of defending HIGH PRICED rusty and locked-up 8 3/4's ...
$150.00 for a complete 1968-69 B-body 8-3/4" axle, leaf springs, shock plates, u-bolts w/nuts, and shackles is high priced?!?! 
You really are off your rocker.
One of the axles even had brand new brake on it! The other is from an Arizona rust free 4-door.
I had two set-ups exactly like you were looking for and was willing to deliver them cheap. You wanted them for $104.00/each and then delivered for peanuts. Good luck! That explains why you are still searching for them.
P.S. Neither axle is locked up.
If you are going to bash my "high prices" all I ask is you get the facts correct. 
1969 Dodge Super Bee A12 (440 Six Pack, 4-speed, Dana 60 4.10)
1972 Plymouth Road Runner (400, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23)
1974 Plymouth Duster 360 (360, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23)
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Re: Screw NHRA ! Rant----
[Re: dennismopar73]
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11/12/11 02:20 PM
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SLOW67
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Come On Guys, helmet good for like 10 years?
I get a free re-cert on my belts so I get close to 6 years out set of belts
something that saves you're head $130
something that keeps you in the car $85
something that keeps from blowing your legs off $300
Being able to walk around and talk act 'normal' and type on the computer, go hunting , drag race more,
PRICELESS !!!
But how does a perfectly good helmet thats taken care of go bad? How does a chunk of aluminum bellhousing thats not damaged by cracks go bad? How can the air force let belts go for 8+ years in a mach 1 aircraft but a 150mph car needs NEW ones every two years?
I've never even thought about joining NHRA because there are hundreds of great heads up street classes and most of them are for the true sportsman racer 
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Re: Screw NHRA ! Rant----
[Re: daniel_depetro]
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11/12/11 03:10 PM
11/12/11 03:10 PM
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dOOc
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ALL THIS reminds me of that guy that had that uNdefenseable position of defending HIGH PRICED rusty and locked-up 8 3/4's ...
$150.00 for a complete 1968-69 B-body 8-3/4" axle, leaf springs, shock plates, u-bolts w/nuts, and shackles is high priced?!?!
You really are off your rocker.
One of the axles even had brand new brake on it! The other is from an Arizona rust free 4-door.
I had two set-ups exactly like you were looking for and was willing to deliver them cheap. You wanted them for $104.00/each and then delivered for peanuts. Good luck! That explains why you are still searching for them.
P.S. Neither axle is locked up.
If you are going to bash my "high prices" all I ask is you get the facts correct.
That was YOU ? ...well excuuuuuse me .. 
And it was still high-priced ...vs similiar CL and eBay sales ... 
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Re: Screw NHRA ! Rant----
[Re: dOOc]
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11/12/11 03:39 PM
11/12/11 03:39 PM
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Twostick
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...and when this topic has come up before .... someone mentioned that the belts on FIGHTER JETS have a "life" of ... IIRC ... THREE TIMES of the mandate of the SEMA(NHRA).
And it was mentioned that these jets subject the belts to at least TWICE the G-forces that of a TF or FC.
It is just a big money-grab...
The reason the airforce can do that is because the pilot can't sue the airforce if the belts fail. The NHRA does it for 1 reason; due diligence. The $$$ part is just a collateral bonus.
Kevin
K-Guy from SEARSandROEBUCK ....
Do you think the AF is going to cheap-out on a MULTImillion dollar airplane ?
No more than John Force would cheap out on his belts but Force has to change his every 2 yrs and the AF doesn't. Webbing likely comes from the same place for both sets too. There can't be more than a few companies that make that stuff.
Again it's all about due diligence and the sanctioning body has NO idea how how you maintain your belts. Due diligence is to assume worst case scenario and plan/rule accordingly. Can't be successfully sued that way.
Kevin
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