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64 pushbutton trans need help! #1094072
10/14/11 07:11 AM
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i have a 64 belvedere 440 w/pushbutton trans. Can this be switched to a racing shifter on floor? without changing trans. was told no, looking for confirmation thanks


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Re: 64 pushbutton trans need help! [Re: sixpacksteve] #1094073
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I was told that there was a floor shifter for racing at one time but it would be almost impossible to find. I still use the buttons on the dash and i go 9.67 and have no problems.

There is a company that has a floor shifter but it is not gated and i have seen the buttons moved to a platform on the drivers right to allow using the right hand to shift buttons.

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Re: 64 pushbutton trans need help! [Re: sixpacksteve] #1094074
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There was a recent thread that might help you, a VB or possibly a rooster comb change may let you use a floor shifter. Google it


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Re: 64 pushbutton trans need help! [Re: RapidRobert] #1094075
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I seriously doubt a valve body change would work, the old PB 727's had rear pumps the new ones don't. The problem is how it's shifted.

Best I can think of is using a floor shift from an early MoPar, such as my 65 Cuda, and modifying the action to be more race oriented.


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Re: 64 pushbutton trans need help! [Re: Supercuda] #1094076
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Google it & find that comprehensive thread, I think it can be done


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Re: 64 pushbutton trans need help! [Re: RapidRobert] #1094077
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The 64 A-100's used a shifter mounted on dash but again its not gated so you could shift past where you intend and I am not sure if it has all the gear selection R N 3 2 1 that is needed park is separate.


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Re: 64 pushbutton trans need help! [Re: Savoy1964] #1094078
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I use a newer trans (1970 model) and then added the floor shifter. But I want to go back to the buttons as they are so cool. But for now I use the B & M Pro Stick and love it. Ron



Re: 64 pushbutton trans need help! [Re: sixpacksteve] #1094079
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There is a hemi- with a home-made floor shifter ....but HERE is one that was made back-in-the-day.....

6870942-ACshifter.jpg (69 downloads)
Re: 64 pushbutton trans need help! [Re: dOc !] #1094080
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Doc I remember that pic in a magazine from way back and the article made a reference something to the effect that they pirated it from a space ship/starship enterprise garage sale something or other. It always stuck in my head and I'd forgotten about until now. I'd like to make one (prob should get a PB tranny 1st)


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Re: 64 pushbutton trans need help! [Re: sixpacksteve] #1094081
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If you can find a '64-'65 console shifter it can be used with any '62-'65 trans if the corresponding console/column shift valve body is used.


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Re: 64 pushbutton trans need help! [Re: John_Kunkel] #1094082
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If you can find a '64-'65 console shifter it can be used with any '62-'65 trans if the corresponding console/column shift valve body is used.


I knew it could be done


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Re: 64 pushbutton trans need help! [Re: RapidRobert] #1094083
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i spoke with jerry stein he said same thing. find a 64-65- floor shifter or dash. but said to stick with the pushbutton setup!


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Re: 64 pushbutton trans need help! [Re: sixpacksteve] #1094084
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The PB valve body doesn't have the extra notch for Park, if you hook a PB valve body to a console/column shifter the cable core will buckle and bend when the shifter is placed in Park....every shift after that will be off because of the bent cable core.

Also, the shift cable core retaining notch is different and a console/column cable won't properly shift a PB valve body.


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Re: 64 pushbutton trans need help! [Re: dOc !] #1094085
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Quote:

There is a hemi- with a home-made floor shifter ....but HERE is one that was made back-in-the-day.....




I had one of those.. Art Carr "Nifty Shifter" -came with a B&M ball and trunion clutchflite I bought.. sold the shifter to a guy restoring a nostalgia gasser - Art told me he just used the pushbuttons out of a Dodge pickup.

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The PB valve body doesn't have the extra notch for Park, if you hook a PB valve body to a console/column shifter the cable core will buckle and bend when the shifter is placed in Park....every shift after that will be off because of the bent cable core.

Also, the shift cable core retaining notch is different and a console/column cable won't properly shift a PB valve body.




Someone might want to tell the factory floor shifter in my Cuda this news.


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Re: 64 pushbutton trans need help! [Re: Supercuda] #1094087
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Re: 64 pushbutton trans need help! [Re: Supercuda] #1094088
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The PB valve body doesn't have the extra notch for Park, if you hook a PB valve body to a console/column shifter the cable core will buckle and bend when the shifter is placed in Park....every shift after that will be off because of the bent cable core.

Also, the shift cable core retaining notch is different and a console/column cable won't properly shift a PB valve body.




Someone might want to tell the factory floor shifter in my Cuda this news.




Explain.


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Re: 64 pushbutton trans need help! [Re: John_Kunkel] #1094089
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The PB valve body doesn't have the extra notch for Park, if you hook a PB valve body to a console/column shifter the cable core will buckle and bend when the shifter is placed in Park....every shift after that will be off because of the bent cable core.

Also, the shift cable core retaining notch is different and a console/column cable won't properly shift a PB valve body.




Someone might want to tell the factory floor shifter in my Cuda this news.




Explain.




I guess he didn't get the push button rfference. Just saw floor column cableshift


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Re: 64 pushbutton trans need help! [Re: bboogieart] #1094090
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OK car has been sitting since 1983 w/trans in car i put a 440 in it. just got it running. seems it is stuck in gear. i can push all of the buttons and they seem to work but won't go into neutral or any other gear.any ideas what to do next without ripping it apart?


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Re: 64 pushbutton trans need help! [Re: sixpacksteve] #1094091
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pull the pan and watch the cable and see if it is adjusted properly and that it is moving the manuel valve !

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