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Negative Battery Cable How much of it should be PAINTED
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10/02/11 11:02 PM
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Want to continue this "discussion" over here in the Restoration Forum because this is where it belongs IMO. There's a thread over in General about judging and how a negative battery cable was considered to be painted too much and I'll be honest when I first saw it I thought the same thing. I started to look at archive photos I have of mostly A12 survivors or A12's that had original negative battery cables and they were ALL painted engine color (IMO) from one end to the clamp and in a few cases it appeared the clamp had been painted at one time too. Here is the link starting at the page where I posted some of the photos I have https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=0&fpart=5 and you can see that the negative cable(s) "appear" to be painted full length or at least that's what I'm seeing. Now here is a photo of a just painted engine and you can see the negative battery cable hanging there and if it was in that position or even "stuffed into the water pump inlet/outlet" according to one member's comment, IMO the painter would have to take extra effort to NOT paint it entirely while spraying the engine. You guys that have painted engines with the negative battery cable hanging there did you have to take precautions to not get paint on the cable by moving it or even covering it?? MikeR
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Re: Negative Battery Cable How much of it should be PAINTED
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10/03/11 12:32 PM
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, IMO the painter would have to take extra effort to NOT paint it entirely while spraying the engine.
no more effort than that used to not paint the entire exhaust manifolds. 
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Re: Negative Battery Cable How much of it should be PAINTED
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10/03/11 12:54 PM
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, IMO the painter would have to take extra effort to NOT paint it entirely while spraying the engine.
no more effort than that used to not paint the entire exhaust manifolds.
Does anyone have any photos from the engine plant or the car assembly line of an engine that wasn't started showing the exhaust manifolds not painted completely I would think the paint would burn off fairly quickly once the engine is running. Again who set this standard, just asking?
I've posted survivor photos of negative battery cables that are completely painted...I need someone to post survivor photos of negative battery cables that are only partially painted to substantiate that side of the discussion. The ball is in the other court at the moment 
MikeR
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Re: Negative Battery Cable How much of it should be PAINTED
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10/03/11 01:00 PM
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The cable probably wasn't even thought about when painting the engine. It was bolted to the block and got whatever paint coverage that happened to be in the way of painting the engine. Look at the manifold in the picture. It is sitting right next to the valve cover. The valve cover has heavy paint coverage but the top of the exhaust manifold is almost bare of any paint. If these parts are painted on the engine why does everyone paint them off of the engine but try to make it look as if they were painted on the engine? 
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Re: Negative Battery Cable How much of it should be PAINTED
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10/03/11 01:30 PM
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The cable probably wasn't even thought about when painting the engine. It was bolted to the block and got whatever paint coverage that happened to be in the way of painting the engine. Look at the manifold in the picture. It is sitting right next to the valve cover. The valve cover has heavy paint coverage but the top of the exhaust manifold is almost bare of any paint. If these parts are painted on the engine why does everyone paint them off of the engine but try to make it look as if they were painted on the engine?
This seems more the "norm" IMO but of course this is a "restoration interpretation" great job BTW IMO.
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Re: Negative Battery Cable How much of it should be PAINTED
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10/03/11 02:06 PM
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Neat pictures. They don't prove the logistics for a Chrysler but they do show how the manifolds were painted just as heavy as the components they were bolted to.
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Re: Negative Battery Cable How much of it should be PAINTED
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10/04/11 11:54 AM
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The first posted picture has not painted the entire exhaust manifold, it should be just like the chevy factory pictures show. The fuel line on the fuel pump wasn't painted and neither were the motor mounts. Also the automatic trans was attached and the bell housing was also attached on manual cars when it was painted.
No one has as of today provided factory proof of if the cable was inserted into the water pump outlet or masked off and hanging. Based on original cars I have seen, most are from lynch road and have more of the cable painted than other factories. AKA wing cars and 6 paks.
Most of todays restorations are painting everything way more than the factory did based on survivors. Here is a pic of a Roger Gibson resto. Not much paint there.
69 Road Runner vert
69 GTX hard top
70 Road Runner 4 speed
70 Hemi Cuda vert
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Re: Negative Battery Cable How much of it should be PAINTED
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10/04/11 11:59 AM
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None on the end of this survivor bee
69 Road Runner vert
69 GTX hard top
70 Road Runner 4 speed
70 Hemi Cuda vert
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Re: Negative Battery Cable How much of it should be PAINTED
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10/04/11 12:04 PM
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But the cable on a 5600 mile 6 pak bee in my friends garage along with a survivor superbird are completely painted. Each car is different based on who painted on any given day and which factory. Lynch Road paint it all, St. Louis partially painted. Generally 
69 Road Runner vert
69 GTX hard top
70 Road Runner 4 speed
70 Hemi Cuda vert
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Re: Negative Battery Cable How much of it should be PAINTED
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10/04/11 12:07 PM
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Ground strap by Rich Berlisk, partially painted
69 Road Runner vert
69 GTX hard top
70 Road Runner 4 speed
70 Hemi Cuda vert
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