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LCA Bushings Removal #1071901
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Anyone have any tricks for pressing out the LCA bushings? I don't have a press, so maybe someone has a good tip.

Thanks!


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Re: LCA Bushings Removal [Re: Erik] #1071902
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take them to a auto machine shop. they have the proper tools to do the job.


I am truckless..
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I did, and they had them for almost two months and did nothing other than let them sit on the floor. Hence why I have them at home and will do them myself.


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Re: LCA Bushings Removal [Re: Erik] #1071904
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Quote:

Anyone have any tricks for pressing out the LCA bushings? I don't have a press, so maybe someone has a good tip.

Thanks!




Yep, read this tech article.
http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/tipstricks/155_0306_control_arms/index.html


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Re: LCA Bushings Removal [Re: hemi71x] #1071905
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without a good press I don't know how you would get them back together

my advice, find a different machine shop

I'd do them for $100 but the postage would kill ya

Re: LCA Bushings Removal [Re: hemi71x] #1071906
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Thanks. I already pressed out the pivots, but don't remember the inner sleeve of the bushing coming out with them. I'll check this weekend.

I already removed/installed the UCA bushings using hand tools made for that purpose (you can get them at Mancini). I will use them to install the LCA bushings, too. Getting the old ones out is the problem.


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Re: LCA Bushings Removal [Re: Erik] #1071907
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Uppers are a piece of cake and can be R+R'd in a bench vice with sockets to press into and out of.

But on the lowers -
99% of the time the outer sleeve stays in .
I use an air chisel to cut a slit in the side of the sleeve and pull it out.

Press the new bushing in the arm, then support the bushing fron the backside when pressing the pin back in or you will push the rubber/inner sleeve out of the bushing out the backside.

trust me, been there done that

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Re: LCA Bushings Removal [Re: Erik] #1071908
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Quote:

Anyone have any tricks for pressing out the LCA bushings? I don't have a press, so maybe someone has a good tip.

Thanks!







No mention of replacements?...if your going with Poly (which I recommend) you need to leave the other bushing shells in the LCA, I just usually torch the rubber out, leaving the shell, then glassbead the assy, then paint, or cosmoline, or both,...the poly bushings just slide in with lube, depending on the poly bushing of choice some require the inner sleeve stay on the pivot shaft as well, that installs by hand with lube as well,...so basically with poly you just need to burn out the rubber, and clean up the assys/install bushings by hand...


if your doing factory style, I still like to torch out the rubber, collaspe the outer shell in the LCA to remove, and carefully grind a slot on the inner sleeve to remove the inner shell from the pivot shaft,....a press is the only correct way to install a new bushing,....do the poly, you'll never look at a factory bushing again

Re: LCA Bushings Removal [Re: gtx6970] #1071909
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push the rubber/inner sleeve out of the bushing out the backside.




I paid a guy to do that for me once ... then I bought my own press and tools and never looked back.

These things are money when it comes time to change an LCA bushing http://www.americanmuscle.biz/23501_Lower_Control_Arm_Bushing_Sleeve_Remover_ABE_p/23501.htm


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Re: LCA Bushings Removal [Re: B_Body_Bob] #1071910
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The American Muscle, lower control arm bushing tool works well, but your still going to need a hydraulic press to put everything back together.


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Re: LCA Bushings Removal [Re: DAYCLONA] #1071911
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Anyone have any tricks for pressing out the LCA bushings? I don't have a press, so maybe someone has a good tip.

Thanks!







No mention of replacements?...if your going with Poly (which I recommend) you need to leave the other bushing shells in the LCA, I just usually torch the rubber out, leaving the shell, then glassbead the assy, then paint, or cosmoline, or both,...the poly bushings just slide in with lube, depending on the poly bushing of choice some require the inner sleeve stay on the pivot shaft as well, that installs by hand with lube as well,...so basically with poly you just need to burn out the rubber, and clean up the assys/install bushings by hand...


if your doing factory style, I still like to torch out the rubber, collaspe the outer shell in the LCA to remove, and carefully grind a slot on the inner sleeve to remove the inner shell from the pivot shaft,....a press is the only correct way to install a new bushing,....do the poly, you'll never look at a factory bushing again




Yes, the new bushings are poly. The ones I have are complete with shells, so I need to get the old shells out. All that is left in the control arm at this point is the outer shell. The old rubber pulled right out with no problems.


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Re: LCA Bushings Removal [Re: hemi71x] #1071912
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The American Muscle, lower control arm bushing tool works well, but your still going to need a hydraulic press to put everything back together.




I just received that last week. I was looking at it over the weekend to figure out exaclty how it fits in there to pull out the shell. I think I understand how it works, but didn't try it yet.


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Re: LCA Bushings Removal [Re: Erik] #1071913
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Erik,
Piece of cake! I purchased the American muscle car tools from the car shop online and removed mine last week. Years ago on another vehicle I tried to use a chisel per the Mopar service manual and it was ugly.
If you do not have a press bring your lower control arms to a good parts store to press out the pivot first and it will take you about 10 minutes with the right tools. I attached a picture to show you what they look like.
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Re: LCA Bushings Removal [Re: Erik] #1071914
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I've done a few once your down to the shell I take the mig and run a few beads down the inside and let it cool. after cooling they will usually just fall out.they will shrink that much. You can also weld pressed in bearing races and they will do the same thing.I have tried the chisel and made more work than it was worth also have used a die grinder with deburring ball to slit and then pull out but the welder is by far the easiest way I have found. a machinest friend showed me how back when I had to turn wrenches for a living. MUCH EASIER. ozz

Re: LCA Bushings Removal [Re: Erik] #1071915
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OT a little, to get the inner sleeve off the pivot pin, use the round part of a ballpen hammer and hit em a few times, It will expand the sleeve and it will come right off.
For the outter sleeve I weld some washers in there and between the heat and having something to push against, the sleeve comes out much easier.
Good luck with it.

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You can notch/cut the inside of the LCA sleeve with a sawzall. Then a hammer and chisel or air chisel to fold the outer lip into the center of the sleeve and it will fall out.

If you have a press, remove the inner sleeve and bushing, then put a washer almost the size of the ID of the outer sleeve into the sleeve. Take an air chisel and fold over the lip of the outer sleeve to hold the washer in place. Then press it out. The washer should come out once the sleeve is off the LCA.

Re: LCA Bushings Removal [Re: Erik] #1071917
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If you don't mind driving to Easton, I always used these guys for machine work when I lived there.

Sigafoos Machine Shop
1031 Spruce Street, Easton, PA 18042-4253
(610) 252-6250 ‎

Re: LCA Bushings Removal [Re: Erik] #1071918
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Put it in a vice, take the blade off a hack saw, put it through the sleeve, reattach blade to hacksaw... then cut the sleeve out. I remember seeing a guy do it that way in a YouTube video awhile back.

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Put it in a vice, take the blade off a hack saw, put it through the sleeve, reattach blade to hacksaw... then cut the sleeve out.




Try that & you'll be cutting the control arm... There is a step between the back of the pocket that receives the bushing & the pocket that receives the torsion bar...


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Re: LCA Bushings Removal [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #1071920
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<> diamond shape tip chisle, split it inward then down the inside, use a punch or drift to "collapse" it and then it will drive out no problem

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