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These valve covers WILL NOT seal #1064349
08/28/11 01:10 PM
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I need , these fab aluminum valve covers with the long 1/4-20 bolts will not seal.

When I got the car I removed the covers to check valve lash. I installed new rubber coated fiber gaskets with no sealer and they leaked. So I bought another new set of gaskets and a tube of grey RTV(this stuff seals anything). And they still leak!!!!!!!

These are iron heads, I'm not sure if the surfaces are flat or not. I've always ran valve cover studs with 440Source covers on my Dart with no sealers and no problems.

Does anybody run these covers with good luck?

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1970 Challenger, all aluminum 528 Hemi, HDK suspension, Tremec 5 speed manual
Re: These valve covers WILL NOT seal [Re: ProSport] #1064350
08/28/11 01:17 PM
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Thats the same cover I run on my small block, I use a thick cork gasket and no sealer

Re: These valve covers WILL NOT seal [Re: ProSport] #1064351
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not related to the valve cover,but change neck to a gen mot 90 deg swivel,that bend u have in the hose may cause u problems i changed mine to the gm 90deg works fine now

Re: These valve covers WILL NOT seal [Re: fishy340] #1064352
08/28/11 02:17 PM
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I actually hate that kind of radiator hose, it will be coming off soon. I had one blow off and spray 190 degree antifreeze all over me a few years ago.

I just can't belive that with good gaskets and grey RTV these things did not seal. I don't even have a clue what to try next. The Moroso gaskets that are rubber with a steel shim would probably work but if they don't it will be a waste of another $40.


1970 Challenger, all aluminum 528 Hemi, HDK suspension, Tremec 5 speed manual
Re: These valve covers WILL NOT seal [Re: ProSport] #1064353
08/28/11 02:27 PM
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oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
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Try a set of Mr Gasket ultras.Install dry and Ill bet they seal.We installed the famous for leak MP cast covers and no leaks at all even after taking them off to adjust valves.Rocky


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Re: These valve covers WILL NOT seal [Re: therocks] #1064354
08/28/11 02:46 PM
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i'm not sure if the moroso blue ones are like any of the ones talked about, but they are thick and have a steel core so they stay to shape. they work perfectly for me and a will never have to buy another set. that's what i'd try.

Re: These valve covers WILL NOT seal [Re: Deepockets] #1064355
08/28/11 03:37 PM
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The last set I ran I had to take them to a friends shop and put them on his belt sander to make them flat, They were warped like crazy from the welding. I never had a leak on them with cheap Felpro gaskets after making them flat.

Re: These valve covers WILL NOT seal [Re: stroked470] #1064356
08/28/11 04:32 PM
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Your problem is the RTV. It's ok to use RTV to hold the gasket to the VC. Be sure to let it dry over night. When you apply RTV to both surfaces(at least iron heads) with out curing it the gasket slips off of the surfaces when tightened. Silicone as you know very slippery. Just my

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Re: These valve covers WILL NOT seal [Re: Butch] #1064357
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are the bolts bottoming out in the head before it tightens down on the cover?

Re: These valve covers WILL NOT seal [Re: 540DUSTER] #1064358
08/28/11 09:26 PM
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i have them for my smallblock too...dont they make a steel cire rubber gasket like the magnum smallblock gasket? Best valve cover gasket there is! If they do make it for BB, get it.

Re: These valve covers WILL NOT seal [Re: POS Dakota] #1064359
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These:
http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/mopestcovaco.html

I just put a set on my 440 with mp cast covers. Years of bs with cork, fiber, silicone. Put these on dry no leaks, and have pulled covers a couple times. I'll never buy anything else.


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Re: These valve covers WILL NOT seal [Re: 68shifter] #1064360
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Quote:

These:
http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/mopestcovaco.html

I just put a set on my 440 with mp cast covers. Years of bs with cork, fiber, silicone. Put these on dry no leaks, and have pulled covers a couple times. I'll never buy anything else.





That is what I use BUT I do have alum heads and block which I know are nice and even. I have taken them off and on several times and no issues and I only use 4 of the 6 screws to hold the valve covers on.


Russ

Re: These valve covers WILL NOT seal [Re: max_maniac] #1064361
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Quote:

I only use 4 of the 6 screws to hold the valve covers on.


Russ





Now you're just bein' mean.

Re: These valve covers WILL NOT seal [Re: max_maniac] #1064362
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I use the cork gaskets, glued/RTVed to the valve covers. Let dry over night with weight on them. Then smear some grease on the gasket-to-head surface of the gasket and voila. NO leaks. And gasket can be re-used over and over again. Will not stick.

And as mentioned above, make sure the bolts aren't too long.

good luck
codfish

Re: These valve covers WILL NOT seal [Re: ProSport] #1064363
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Make sure the valve cover is flat first... if they
arent your wasting your time and money

Re: These valve covers WILL NOT seal [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1064364
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Iron bb heads valve cover rails are not flat. They are not supposed to be. The threaded holes are not square to the surface, they are tipped toward the intake side of the engine on purpous, as are the bosses they are drilled into. I'm very supprized you were able to get bolts in at all. If you put a straight edge on the thread bosses and compare that height to the front and the rear rails, you wil find about 1/8" difference. Those covers were meant for aftermarket heads. All of the aftermarket heads I know of have flat valve cover rails.


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Re: These valve covers WILL NOT seal [Re: TRENDZ] #1064365
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What rocker shaft stands are you using? I had that same problem with my engine when I switched from DC valve covers to Moroso covers. The DC covers are a little taller and cleared the blocks that hold my shafts in place. The Moroso covers bottomed out on the top of the stands. No matter what I did I had a leak. Finally I took the end stands off and ground them off to the profile of the cover. Then they fit.

Re: These valve covers WILL NOT seal [Re: ProSport] #1064366
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I never did get these valve covers to seal and finally just got rid of them. Told the guy that bought them from me the problems and he had the same problem. Heard he sold them for scrap aluminum.

Re: These valve covers WILL NOT seal [Re: codfish] #1064367
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Quote:

I use the cork gaskets, glued/RTVed to the valve covers. Let dry over night with weight on them. Then smear some grease on the gasket-to-head surface of the gasket and voila. NO leaks. And gasket can be re-used over and over again. Will not stick.

And as mentioned above, make sure the bolts aren't too long.

good luck
codfish





This is the ONLY method that works for me as well.

I tried all the fancy gaskets even the $50 Moroso's .

Re: These valve covers WILL NOT seal [Re: ProSport] #1064368
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the mopar thermostat housings all leak!!!use mr gasket for a gm its the same and no leaks,,or mancini sells the cnc one little pricey but no leaks

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