These valve covers WILL NOT seal
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08/28/11 01:10 PM
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I need , these fab aluminum valve covers with the long 1/4-20 bolts will not seal. When I got the car I removed the covers to check valve lash. I installed new rubber coated fiber gaskets with no sealer and they leaked. So I bought another new set of gaskets and a tube of grey RTV(this stuff seals anything). And they still leak!!!!!!! These are iron heads, I'm not sure if the surfaces are flat or not. I've always ran valve cover studs with 440Source covers on my Dart with no sealers and no problems. Does anybody run these covers with good luck?
1970 Challenger, all aluminum 528 Hemi, HDK suspension, Tremec 5 speed manual
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Re: These valve covers WILL NOT seal
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08/28/11 02:17 PM
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I actually hate that kind of radiator hose, it will be coming off soon. I had one blow off and spray 190 degree antifreeze all over me a few years ago. I just can't belive that with good gaskets and grey RTV these things did not seal. I don't even have a clue what to try next. The Moroso gaskets that are rubber with a steel shim would probably work but if they don't it will be a waste of another $40.
1970 Challenger, all aluminum 528 Hemi, HDK suspension, Tremec 5 speed manual
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Re: These valve covers WILL NOT seal
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08/28/11 02:27 PM
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Try a set of Mr Gasket ultras.Install dry and Ill bet they seal.We installed the famous for leak MP cast covers and no leaks at all even after taking them off to adjust valves.Rocky
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Re: These valve covers WILL NOT seal
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08/28/11 04:32 PM
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Your problem is the RTV. It's ok to use RTV to hold the gasket to the VC. Be sure to let it dry over night. When you apply RTV to both surfaces(at least iron heads) with out curing it the gasket slips off of the surfaces when tightened. Silicone as you know very slippery. Just my Butch
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Re: These valve covers WILL NOT seal
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08/28/11 09:51 PM
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These: http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/mopestcovaco.htmlI just put a set on my 440 with mp cast covers. Years of bs with cork, fiber, silicone. Put these on dry no leaks, and have pulled covers a couple times. I'll never buy anything else.
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Re: These valve covers WILL NOT seal
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08/28/11 10:53 PM
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These: http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/mopestcovaco.html
I just put a set on my 440 with mp cast covers. Years of bs with cork, fiber, silicone. Put these on dry no leaks, and have pulled covers a couple times. I'll never buy anything else.
That is what I use BUT I do have alum heads and block which I know are nice and even. I have taken them off and on several times and no issues and I only use 4 of the 6 screws to hold the valve covers on.
Russ
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Re: These valve covers WILL NOT seal
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08/28/11 11:01 PM
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I only use 4 of the 6 screws to hold the valve covers on.
Russ
Now you're just bein' mean.
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Re: These valve covers WILL NOT seal
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08/28/11 11:07 PM
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I use the cork gaskets, glued/RTVed to the valve covers. Let dry over night with weight on them. Then smear some grease on the gasket-to-head surface of the gasket and voila. NO leaks. And gasket can be re-used over and over again. Will not stick. And as mentioned above, make sure the bolts aren't too long. good luck codfish
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Re: These valve covers WILL NOT seal
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08/29/11 07:03 AM
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Iron bb heads valve cover rails are not flat. They are not supposed to be. The threaded holes are not square to the surface, they are tipped toward the intake side of the engine on purpous, as are the bosses they are drilled into. I'm very supprized you were able to get bolts in at all. If you put a straight edge on the thread bosses and compare that height to the front and the rear rails, you wil find about 1/8" difference. Those covers were meant for aftermarket heads. All of the aftermarket heads I know of have flat valve cover rails.
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Re: These valve covers WILL NOT seal
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08/29/11 04:20 PM
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I use the cork gaskets, glued/RTVed to the valve covers. Let dry over night with weight on them. Then smear some grease on the gasket-to-head surface of the gasket and voila. NO leaks. And gasket can be re-used over and over again. Will not stick.
And as mentioned above, make sure the bolts aren't too long.
good luck codfish
This is the ONLY method that works for me as well.
I tried all the fancy gaskets even the $50 Moroso's .
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