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Aftermarket RB block help?? #1063789
08/27/11 10:01 AM
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Long story short, what I thought was a blown head gasket turned out to be a split cylinder wall. The motor is a 500" stroker with less than 100 runs, 14:1, Indy -1 cnc heads, with Jesel pushrod oiling. The more searches I do the more confused I get. I would like to just transfer The parts I have to the new block, this will never be a maximum effort 572, just trying to build a solid ,long living bracket motor. Are the Mopar Performance blocks good, are they available? Any input is appreciated, The motor will be assembled by a reputable shop, not sure who yet. There is'nt much in the way of Mopar oriented machine shops in the Tampa Fl. area, unless someone knows of one. Sorry this is so long, you guys are the best, thanks in advance.

Re: Aftermarket RB block help?? [Re: Thor500] #1063790
08/27/11 10:13 AM
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im guessing you cracked a stock block?? when we first built our 496ci 440-1c, 14.5-1, .750 ish cam, ect engine we cracked a cylinder the first season. At that time there were not many choices of blocks so i did another stock block but i filled it with cement and added a girdle. The engine ran another 4 HARD seasons with not problems.

You are lucky cause u have a few choices. The choice I would make is a Koleno block! Give Scott Koffle a call. Also Big Bear will chime in im sure. They have a great block and all your worries will disspapear.

Re: Aftermarket RB block help?? [Re: Thor500] #1063791
08/27/11 10:17 AM
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Just a thought... have your block sleeved IF you have
it sonic checked and the others show good

Re: Aftermarket RB block help?? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1063792
08/27/11 10:33 AM
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Don't waste another dime on that stock block. I got my Megablock in 2003 and there are more choices now. Call Indy (or an Indy dealer), call Koffel, call Keith Black. There are others as well, do your research. Then BUY the AFTERMARKET block that makes sense for you.


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Re: Aftermarket RB block help?? [Re: nhramark] #1063793
08/27/11 10:53 AM
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The new World block are reasonably priced and are in steel or aluminum. Buy one of those, check for ARP main studs, and you will have a solid foundation that will outlive the power you put to it. Otherwise, sleeve what you have and wait for it to break again. JMO

Re: Aftermarket RB block help?? [Re: Thor500] #1063794
08/27/11 10:56 AM
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Quote:

Long story short, what I thought was a blown head gasket turned out to be a split cylinder wall. The motor is a 500" stroker with less than 100 runs, 14:1, Indy -1 cnc heads, with Jesel pushrod oiling. The more searches I do the more confused I get. I would like to just transfer The parts I have to the new block, this will never be a maximum effort 572, just trying to build a solid ,long living bracket motor. Are the Mopar Performance blocks good, are they available? Any input is appreciated, The motor will be assembled by a reputable shop, not sure who yet. There is'nt much in the way of Mopar oriented machine shops in the Tampa Fl. area, unless someone knows of one. Sorry this is so long, you guys are the best, thanks in advance.




call Dan Dvorak @ Dvorak machine in Gainesville, I am sure he will have something.
Joey

Re: Aftermarket RB block help?? [Re: camastomcat] #1063795
08/27/11 10:59 AM
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as far as a shop you want to call Kevin at APE he is in Arbandale 863-967-8781 he does great work and does a lot of Mopar engines.He does everything in house except crank grinding even has in house dyno. Tell him Woody sent you.


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Re: Aftermarket RB block help?? [Re: Thor500] #1063796
08/27/11 11:10 AM
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Quote:

...turned out to be a split cylinder wall.

I would like to just transfer The parts I have to the new block


What were the cyliner wall thickness numbers from the sonic test?
The availability of the MP blocks (World Products) comes and goes. Since you want to use your pistons (4.3xx"), you will need the smaller bore blocks and sometimes only the larger bore (~4.5") are available. Koleno is an option, slightly more expensive from what I have seen posted.

Re: Aftermarket RB block help?? [Re: Thor500] #1063797
08/27/11 06:07 PM
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Quote:

Long story short, what I thought was a blown head gasket turned out to be a split cylinder wall. The motor is a 500" stroker with less than 100 runs, 14:1, Indy -1 cnc heads, with Jesel pushrod oiling. The more searches I do the more confused I get. I would like to just transfer The parts I have to the new block, this will never be a maximum effort 572, just trying to build a solid ,long living bracket motor. Are the Mopar Performance blocks good, are they available? Any input is appreciated, The motor will be assembled by a reputable shop, not sure who yet. There is'nt much in the way of Mopar oriented machine shops in the Tampa Fl. area, unless someone knows of one. Sorry this is so long, you guys are the best, thanks in advance.




what bore size is your current block?


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Re: Aftermarket RB block help?? [Re: Performance Only] #1063798
08/27/11 06:11 PM
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machine shop in my sig. i heard he has some fancy new equipment also


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Re: Aftermarket RB block help?? [Re: Performance Only] #1063799
08/27/11 07:32 PM
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Florida-West Coast
Thor500 Offline OP
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what bore size is your current block?

The block was sonic checked according to the machine shop invoice that I have, no numbers, the pistons are Ross#99545 which are 4.375 in. bore., You guys are a wealth of info.

Re: Aftermarket RB block help?? [Re: jake4cars] #1063800
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call Dan Dvorak @ Dvorak machine in Gainesville, I am sure he will have something.
Joey




Dan Dvorak has been building stuff like this for longer than most anybody. I would use him in a heartbeat if he is close enough to you. I never bought a thing from the guy but did have a couple of phone conversations with him back in the mid eighties and he gave me some great advice.
I don't think you could go wrong there.
Keith

Re: Aftermarket RB block help?? [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #1063801
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If all other cylinders have good wall thickness, and a mag check of the whole block looks good, (main bearing webbing) I might chance sleaving it and adding block fill and AL caps or girdle. But tally up the cost and compare to an after market block and see what comes up. Best route is KB aluminum in my opinion, but thats' me.


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