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Wheel Vintiques issue #1063553 08/26/11 10:00 PM 08/26/11 10:00 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,138 tucson az F frank OP top fuel
frank OP top fuel F Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,138 tucson az	Just received wheeles from wheel vintiques. I ordered 15 inch wheel(cop wheel) with a 4.5" backspace. I measured one wheel and backspace is 4 13/16, not 4.5". Has anyone else ever run into this with Wheel Vintique wheeles? Would 5/16 make that much difference? Car is 69 GTX 275-60-15 and 245-60-15 tires. Your thoughts?

Re: Wheel Vintiques issue [Re: frank] #1063554 08/26/11 11:49 PM 08/26/11 11:49 PM
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 3 So. California A axle member
axle member A Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 3 So. California	Quote: Just received wheeles from wheel vintiques. I ordered 15 inch wheel(cop wheel) with a 4.5" backspace. I measured one wheel and backspace is 4 13/16, not 4.5". Has anyone else ever run into this with Wheel Vintique wheeles? Would 5/16 make that much difference? Car is 69 GTX 275-60-15 and 245-60-15 tires. Your thoughts? Shouldn't make a difference

Re: Wheel Vintiques issue [Re: axle] #1063555 08/26/11 11:50 PM 08/26/11 11:50 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 12,271 Overpriced Housing Central RobX4406 I Live Here
RobX4406 I Live Here Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 12,271 Overpriced Housing Central	Personally, I'd want what I ordered and paid for....

Re: Wheel Vintiques issue [Re: frank] #1063556 08/26/11 11:56 PM 08/26/11 11:56 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio Challenger 1 Too Many Posts
Challenger 1 Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio	How are you measuring them?

Re: Wheel Vintiques issue [Re: RobX4406] #1063557 08/26/11 11:57 PM 08/26/11 11:57 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN A ahy master
ahy master A Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN	I'd mount one up (carefully wo/ scratches) and measure clearance. You will have to estimate tire bulge and diameter. If it is still a good fit, keep them. If the difference causes a problem, return them. Either way, I'd give them a call to make them aware of the problem.

Re: Wheel Vintiques issue [Re: ahy] #1063558 08/27/11 12:27 AM 08/27/11 12:27 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio Challenger 1 Too Many Posts
Challenger 1 Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio	Quote: I'd mount one up (carefully wo/ scratches) and measure clearance. You will have to estimate tire bulge and diameter. If it is still a good fit, keep them. If the difference causes a problem, return them. Either way, I'd give them a call to make them aware of the problem. I'd carefully mount the steel wheel on your car and take a look before I would mount tires on one. This is what it says on there wheels. Just painted mine today.

Re: Wheel Vintiques issue [Re: RobX4406] #1063559 08/27/11 12:27 AM 08/27/11 12:27 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 104,346 Garden Grove, CA OzHemi Penguin-hating Ginger
OzHemi Penguin-hating Ginger Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 104,346 Garden Grove, CA	Quote: Personally, I'd want what I ordered and paid for.... This..if you paid them a "little" less and said it was close enough to what they asked for..you can imagine thier response.. I order thousands of wheel components all the time..and I expect to get what I order, same would go for a single wheel.

Re: Wheel Vintiques issue [Re: OzHemi] #1063560 08/27/11 12:31 AM 08/27/11 12:31 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio Challenger 1 Too Many Posts
Challenger 1 Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio	Quote: Quote: Personally, I'd want what I ordered and paid for.... This..if you paid them a "little" less and said it was close enough to what they asked for..you can imagine thier response.. I order thousands of wheel components all the time..and I expect to get what I order, same would go for a single wheel. I agree no doubt. I wonder if the OP is measuring them right?

Re: Wheel Vintiques issue [Re: Challenger 1] #1063561 08/27/11 12:05 PM 08/27/11 12:05 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,138 tucson az F frank OP top fuel
frank OP top fuel F Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,138 tucson az	Quote: How are you measuring them? I put a straight edge accross the back lip and measure from the bottom of the straight edge to the wheel mount flange

Re: Wheel Vintiques issue [Re: frank] #1063562 08/27/11 12:23 PM 08/27/11 12:23 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio Challenger 1 Too Many Posts
Challenger 1 Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio	You must measure from inside the bead to the mounting flange, can't use a straight edge.

Re: Wheel Vintiques issue [Re: Challenger 1] #1063563 08/27/11 12:53 PM 08/27/11 12:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows? 1_WILD_RT Management Trainee
1_WILD_RT Management Trainee Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows?	Quote: You must measure from inside the bead to the mounting flange, can't use a straight edge. This is the correct way from back in the day but last night I checked about a dozen websites & they all showed the measurement taken from the rear lip.... As has been pointed out many times "I saw it on the internet so it must be true" Think about it you measure rim width from tire bead 2 tire bead not rim edge 2 rim edge..... Back spacing is measured to the tire bead which would mean your rims are damn close to perfect.... "The Armies of our ancestors were lucky, in that they were not trailed by a second army of pencil pushers."

Re: Wheel Vintiques issue [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #1063564 08/27/11 01:15 PM 08/27/11 01:15 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,138 tucson az F frank OP top fuel
frank OP top fuel F Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,138 tucson az	I remeasured and you are correct. The bead is .345 (average). When this is taken into account there is only a .03" difference. Thanks for educating me on the proper way to do this!

Re: Wheel Vintiques issue [Re: frank] #1063565 08/27/11 02:24 PM 08/27/11 02:24 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio Challenger 1 Too Many Posts
Challenger 1 Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio

Re: Wheel Vintiques issue [Re: Challenger 1] #1063566 08/27/11 10:55 PM 08/27/11 10:55 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	Well I'll b damned, I had no idea that you didn't measure bs w a straightedge across the back esp as it pictured/explained like that everywhere live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: Wheel Vintiques issue [Re: RapidRobert] #1063567 08/27/11 11:39 PM 08/27/11 11:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 104,346 Garden Grove, CA OzHemi Penguin-hating Ginger
OzHemi Penguin-hating Ginger Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 104,346 Garden Grove, CA	I have always measured back spacing across the very back edge of the wheel....as do all the people I know who build wheels

Re: Wheel Vintiques issue [Re: OzHemi] #1063568 08/27/11 11:42 PM 08/27/11 11:42 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio Challenger 1 Too Many Posts
Challenger 1 Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio	Quote: I have always measured back spacing across the very back edge of the wheel....as do all the people I know who build wheels Well of course you use a straight edge across the rear bead to check BS, I worded it wrong above. The thickness of the bead has to be accounted for in your measurments is all just like Frank stated above.

Re: Wheel Vintiques issue [Re: Challenger 1] #1063569 08/28/11 09:52 AM 08/28/11 09:52 AM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 4,727 Florida BDW master
BDW master Joined: May 2005 Posts: 4,727 Florida	I never understood this either, until I noticed they give offset and BS numbers for same rim, they always are about 1/2" difference. Finally figured out it was the method of measurement.

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