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talked to kent this mourning he said anyone interested in the intake can call him @585-610-9979 his cell or mike wear @ muscel motors for any info or to order one, later guys

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there a price on this thing yet for the public?

Also, I would be hours looking through this whole thread again, but I could swear someone had the part number for a complete longblock (or shortblock?) 5.7 or 6.1 (or both) from the dealer. Is this still so? are they available? or would someone need a VIN to get one?

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X2 What happened to this thread? Everybody quit building, or just quit giving out info.. I KNOW info is hard to get FREE!!

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Well after changing my build to include the MP alum. block i tapped out the funds. Also since looking at the power level i might be pushing i decided to do the rest of the metal work on my challenger an cage so i don't twist that car. Then i have to wait for Matt to get his build done first, So i can make sure i run .001 faster then him.

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If u wait for me ill be in a pine box.
I was already to go full bore on my car since the wife ok'd it.
Now I maybe going on strike at the end of the year. I really don't think we are going.
It will depend on what the teachers do Aug 28.
They will set the tone for the rest of Ontario government.
If we dont go out, this time next year I'm hoping to be driving my paper weight.
If you really want to be faster than me borrow your kids tricycle.

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I am considering building a 3G for a Duster and would need to run 9.50s all out, and the car would be used to race in super gas, and other index racing. i just want make sure these will work and last. what size motor would work and what heads,comp....

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I am considering building a 3G for a Duster and would need to run 9.50s all out, and the car would be used to race in super gas, and other index racing. i just want make sure these will work and last. what size motor would work and what heads,comp....

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I talked to Arrington a while back
They offered a 426 inch motor with a 267/271 hydralic roller, drag pack intake, at about 12 to 1 compression complete that they said would make an honest 650 ponies.
A motor nearly identical to this is installed( shop car they have on website) in a new body style charger that i believe has gone 10.20s ish at around 4000 pounds, but i think has a bit less compression( dont quote me on that)
Based on that, i suspect a 3000 pound A body should runs mid 9's carburated without a lot of trouble once sorted out.
Motor complete was 13 grand ish as i recall.This included an optional setup that mounted coil packs on the intake.

Basically an assembled longblock with intake and coil packs, and using they're trick rocker gear, and fully ported heads they supply, custom crank rods and pistons.

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Its all in the heads. they flow so much with so little effort.
You have Eddies coming out with a victor aluminum head don't know what date.
You have INDY with all their customer service and quality products and even with all this you will need serious effort RE $$$$$$$$$$ to get the flow numbers any where near the ported G3 head
I will be building one in the future but for now since I have all the parts my R3 is going together. Once completed and my car is running, the G3 starts.
Still trying to figure out what the oiling issue is, if there is any
For now Its R3 time.

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I am considering building a 3G for a Duster and would need to run 9.50s all out, and the car would be used to race in super gas, and other index racing. i just want make sure these will work and last. what size motor would work and what heads,comp....

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I talked to Arrington a while back
They offered a 426 inch motor with a 267/271 hydralic roller, drag pack intake, at about 12 to 1 compression complete that they said would make an honest 650 ponies.
A motor nearly identical to this is installed( shop car they have on website) in a new body style charger that i believe has gone 10.20s ish at around 4000 pounds, but i think has a bit less compression( dont quote me on that)
Based on that, i suspect a 3000 pound A body should runs mid 9's carburated without a lot of trouble once sorted out.
Motor complete was 13 grand ish as i recall.This included an optional setup that mounted coil packs on the intake.

Basically an assembled longblock with intake and coil packs, and using they're trick rocker gear, and fully ported heads they supply, custom crank rods and pistons.

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Thought I would get this thread back to the top since I am seriously considering getting rid of my LA stuff and going 5.7 in my scamp. I have tried searching for the answer to this question high and low here, but haven't found much so thought I would ask

I am wondering about stock bottom ends and what they can handle. Looking at a 2008 core motor that currently has a spun rod bearing. I have heard that high ten's in a 3400lb car are easily achievable with these engines potential, and im wondering if that can be done with a stock bottom end (I know the pistons are cast, rods powdered, and the crank is cast- although cranks are said to be decent in strength) and with the early 5.7 heads? Or would something of this caliber require upgraded bottom end parts (i.e. 6.1 crank, rods?, pistons?) and something like 6.1 or 5.7 Eagle heads?

Any insight on this stuff would be great, and I have to say, I read this whole thread for about the third time and it has a TON of great info, so thanks to all who shared so far

Thanks!

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Thought I would get this thread back to the top since I am seriously considering getting rid of my LA stuff and going 5.7 in my scamp. I have tried searching for the answer to this question high and low here, but haven't found much so thought I would ask

I am wondering about stock bottom ends and what they can handle. Looking at a 2008 core motor that currently has a spun rod bearing. I have heard that high ten's in a 3400lb car are easily achievable with these engines potential, and im wondering if that can be done with a stock bottom end (I know the pistons are cast, rods powdered, and the crank is cast- although cranks are said to be decent in strength) and with the early 5.7 heads? Or would something of this caliber require upgraded bottom end parts (i.e. 6.1 crank, rods?, pistons?) and something like 6.1 or 5.7 Eagle heads?

Any insight on this stuff would be great, and I have to say, I read this whole thread for about the third time and it has a TON of great info, so thanks to all who shared so far

Thanks!

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I'm thinking about starting a thread walking through performance mods to a basically stock 5.7 and working the build all the way through to a forced induction engine. We just purchased and altered 23T and rather than going straight to a built turbo engine we might try a 5.7 out of the junkyard and work it through some performance mods and document the gains or losses on our dyno. If you would like to see some test just let me know and if it fits the budget (and parts laying around the shop) we may give it a go.
Most folks won't be running an altered but the HP/TQ info should be helpful.

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sounds awesome