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Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine [Re: MattW] #1057429
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In keeping with this thread, found out the Fiat WAS selling a complete 6.4 PRODUCTION HEMI 5037400AA which was superseded by 5037400AF.
Retails for 6237.00 But has a NS5 code attached to it
Man wish I would of known this sooner.Matt




Matt is that the part# for the MDS version or the non-MDS version????

Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine [Re: 540challenger] #1057430
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In keeping with this thread, found out the Fiat WAS selling a complete 6.4 PRODUCTION HEMI 5037400AA which was superseded by 5037400AF.
Retails for 6237.00 But has a NS5 code attached to it
Man wish I would of known this sooner.Matt




Matt is that the part# for the MDS version or the non-MDS version????




I gave him the PN and it's for an ATX application, so that would make it MDS if I understand correctly.

Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine [Re: ZIPPY] #1057431
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I recieved a very good quote from CMW Motorsports out on the West Lefty coast for a 6-71 or 8-71 blown 426 late model hemi stroker engine. I was going to go the MFI route to be legal.

Unfortunetly, my W2 motor has not sold yet, and the Gasser Racing Series requires a distributer to be legal along with the MFI...Those distributer conversions seem to be very pricey, and would not clear a blower..I had one of their founding fathers over the other day, and they are not really wanting to change the rules for one guy...So, I can't run one of these for now, but check them out. They offer short blocks to long blocks to complete engines. Had a very good conversation with them. He also had some first hand knowledge of the new aluminum blocks, very interesting.

Fixed the link: (note to self, don't post vids from phone)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBf8554uj0Y&noredirect=1

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Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine [Re: Dragula] #1057432
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I recieved a very good quote from CMW Motorsports out on the West Lefty coast for a 6-71 or 8-71 blown 426 late model hemi stroker engine. I was going to go the MFI route to be legal.

Unfortunetly, my W2 motor has not sold yet, and the Gasser Racing Series requires a distributer to be legal along with the MFI...Those distributer conversions seem to be very pricey, and would not clear a blower..I had one of their founding fathers over the other day, and they are not really wanting to change the rules for one guy...So, I can't run one of these for now, but check them out. They offer short blocks to long blocks to complete engines. Had a very good conversation with them. He also had some first hand knowledge of the new aluminum blocks, very interesting.

http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=fBf8554uj0Y




Thats sucks about the distributer, could you run a procharger style supercharger?????

Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine [Re: ZIPPY] #1057433
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In keeping with this thread, found out the Fiat WAS selling a complete 6.4 PRODUCTION HEMI 5037400AA which was superseded by 5037400AF.
Retails for 6237.00 But has a NS5 code attached to it
Man wish I would of known this sooner.Matt




Matt is that the part# for the MDS version or the non-MDS version????




I gave him the PN and it's for an ATX application, so that would make it MDS if I understand correctly.




Thanks Zippy, Any clue when 6.4L will bw available? the poor guys at my Dodge dealer I go down every 3 months to keep checking but nothing yet

Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine [Re: 540challenger] #1057434
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i know zilch about these newer engines but have been poking around this thread. i get the impression the drag pack intake is about the only one really worth having and it possibly is no longer being produced? am i misunderstanding? i took a quick look at mancini racing and the manifolds i see there look terrible. why the heck go through the expense of bringing those manifolds to market and not offer a nice single plane? i realize these engines are injected but they have to be more and more finding their way into carbureted applications. wonder why edelbrock hasn't cranked out something

Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine [Re: ZIPPY] #1057435
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Where can I get the hydraulic roller lifters?? I am hearing that NONE are available right now.. A Mopar SNAFU again..? The Hemi I am building has been a real PIA just trying to get parts.


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Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine [Re: jamesc] #1057436
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Drag pak intakes are available, but you have to order it to get it (they aren't kept in depot stock).

Really for carb, the 392 crate carb intake was the one. Same as DP manifold but no injector machining, etc.

There should be an $800 distributor conversion coming shortly, it's more expensive than a distributor for an older engine because a new timing cover comes with it.

No timeframe for 6.4 yet, the desire to make it available is strong but I wouldn't embarass myself taking a guess at eta yet.


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Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine [Re: 540challenger] #1057437
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Thats sucks about the distributer, could you run a procharger style supercharger?????




No. States directly in the rules, no centrifugal superchargers. I only want to run 10.0's with a mild motor that will last 3 seasons without a rebuild, just normal maintenance.

I will tell you what got me going down this path was this engine vid right here, this thing is just sick!!!!: (Sorry, not Mopar)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0UjYDEmz8Q&noredirect=1


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Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine [Re: Dragula] #1057438
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Thats sucks about the distributer, could you run a procharger style supercharger?????




No. States directly in the rules, no centrifugal superchargers. I only want to run 10.0's with a mild motor that will last 3 seasons without a rebuild, just normal maintenance.

I will tell you what got me going down this path was this engine vid right here, this thing is just sick!!!!: (Sorry, not Mopar)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0UjYDEmz8Q&noredirect=1




I am not 100% but i think there is a compnay that makes a blower faceing the firewall maybe post on the LX forum they would know for sure

Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine [Re: jamesc] #1057439
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i know zilch about these newer engines but have been poking around this thread. i get the impression the drag pack intake is about the only one really worth having and it possibly is no longer being produced? am i misunderstanding? i took a quick look at mancini racing and the manifolds i see there look terrible. why the heck go through the expense of bringing those manifolds to market and not offer a nice single plane? i realize these engines are injected but they have to be more and more finding their way into carbureted applications. wonder why edelbrock hasn't cranked out something


There is a guy whoa allready has a NEw 6.1L port intake coming out ina few months. It take all stock 6.1 componants and flow more then a ported version of the factory intake OTB. He will have dyno number s on a car soon too boot

Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine [Re: 540challenger] #1057440
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wonder why edelbrock hasn't cranked out something




I know the story behind this and the picture is not a pretty one. pm me if truly interested. It's ridiculous.


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Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine [Re: CHAPPER] #1057441
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Where can I get the hydraulic roller lifters?? I am hearing that NONE are available right now.. A Mopar SNAFU again..? The Hemi I am building has been a real PIA just trying to get parts.






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Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine [Re: CHAPPER] #1057442
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Can I hear why they don't make one? I keep calling, e-mailing... every couple months to keep preasure on them to come out with something and let them know there would be a huge market for it but no one I talk to ever knows any thing lots of guys would be thrilled to buy a good $300 single carb intake to stab a JY 5.7 in an old car. The masses have good carbs they could stick on and make the conversion a whole lot cheaper. A $50 used 3310 and a kit makes more sense in thease times of financial trouble than the expensive/time consumeing EFI deal. It just seems the people who develop the parts want to shove EFI down our throats weather or not we want it. If you use mega squirt you need to go to ITT to make it work right, if you go factory computer you can't easily program it for changes unless you have another expensive computer, a $30 parts store fuel pump wont work with a high preasure EFI system. There is just no way EFI can compete with a carb for simpleness and price if someone would step up and produce the missing link, a decent performing, affordable intake.


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Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine [Re: HotRodDave] #1057443
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check out kent ritter's booth at indy show march 10, he's going to have several drag-pac copys & will be taking orders fot a intake

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sorry guys kent din't get the intakes done for the indy show, but he said they be done next week, if interested get hold me & get me your # & i'll get it to kent,thanks

Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine [Re: jg309] #1057445
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alt is mounted. got a dual pass rad for the challenger since it works so awesome in the cuda. the wiring harness is ordered and Dan is hacking up a dual AVS lid for me. i plan to rewire the whole engine compartment yet because of the changes in charging system.

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Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine [Re: sixpackgut] #1057446
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does the ATI damper have a usable bolt pattern on the front if one wanted to mount a V belt pulley, instead of using the stock serpentine/ribbed belts?


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talked to kent this mourning he said anyone interested in the intake can call him @585-610-9979 his cell or mike wear @ muscel motors for any info or to order one, later guys

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talked to kent this mourning he said anyone interested in the intake can call him @585-610-9979 his cell or mike wear @ muscel motors for any info or to order one, later guys




there a price on this thing yet for the public?

Also, I would be hours looking through this whole thread again, but I could swear someone had the part number for a complete longblock (or shortblock?) 5.7 or 6.1 (or both) from the dealer. Is this still so? are they available? or would someone need a VIN to get one?

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