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Summit headers SUM-G9140+ ??? #1050796
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Summit header listed for B & F body A engine, does anybody have experience w/these?
wondering about fit on drivers side, does steering link pass thru them or go underneath?
would also like to see a pic of drivers side tubes

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I believe they are pretty much the same as Heddmans so they have the usual 3 tubes passing under the steering linkage.

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I believe they are pretty much the same as Heddmans so they have the usual 3 tubes passing under the steering linkage.





Correct. And depending on the ride height of the car, the driver's side header can and will drag on high spots in parking areas and also after driving through other major dips in the road, etc. I have them on my 68' Charger and I hate 'em basically.....if this helps. I wish I'd gone TTI first thing

Re: Summit headers SUM-G9140+ ??? [Re: racincuda] #1050799
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I put a set on my bro's old 67 'lite. As I recall It wasn't a terrible install and they fit well. I think I did drop the steering link to make it easier.


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The tube from Number 3 cylinder will make it a pain to put plugs in if it is not bent correctly be prepared to heat and pry. Also the bolt holes on Number 1-7are a real pain in the butt open them up a little and get smalheaded bolts as even allen heads are too big on the inner of #7 cylinder

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How about a "report card" on the Summit headers for the B/RB engine ?

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How about a "report card" on the Summit headers for the B/RB engine ?




here see for yourself. Even more room w/o the power steering. I used all of the stock ex mani studs

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I believe Summit headers are made by Patriot ( ??). Everyone will say they are just like Hedmans, but I've looked at both side by side, and while they follow the same bend pattern, they are not identical.
B/RB report card: I purchased a set for my B motor 67 Satellite. The primary tubes extend straight out of the flanges more-so than any others I've seen. Probobly good for flow charachteristics, but not so good for clearance requirements. They wouldn't clear the power steering pump on my car (not even close). I hung them on my wall, and purchased a set of Hooker Comps. I immediately saw the quality difference when the hookers arrived. I chalked it up to a $109 lesson and moved on. Ultimately, I'm happy I have the 1-7/8" hookers now. The Summit's are still hanging on my wall (with a dent in them at the #3 power steering interference area) if anyone's interested.

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I believe Summit headers are made by Patriot ( ??). Everyone will say they are just like Hedmans, but I've looked at both side by side, and while they follow the same bend pattern, they are not identical.
B/RB report card: I purchased a set for my B motor 67 Satellite. The primary tubes extend straight out of the flanges more-so than any others I've seen. Probobly good for flow charachteristics, but not so good for clearance requirements. They wouldn't clear the power steering pump on my car (not even close). I hung them on my wall, and purchased a set of Hooker Comps. I immediately saw the quality difference when the hookers arrived. I chalked it up to a $109 lesson and moved on. Ultimately, I'm happy I have the 1-7/8" hookers now. The Summit's are still hanging on my wall (with a dent in them at the #3 power steering interference area) if anyone's interested.




Thanks for sharing your experience with the Summit B/RB headers. I was just considering them for a 383 '70 Charger with power steering. These are the $119 set I seen in Summit I guess.
Which Hookers did you get? The standard Competition or SUPER comps? I'm working on a LOW budget build
Thanks!

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I believe Summit headers are made by Patriot ( ??). Everyone will say they are just like Hedmans, but I've looked at both side by side, and while they follow the same bend pattern, they are not identical.
B/RB report card: I purchased a set for my B motor 67 Satellite. The primary tubes extend straight out of the flanges more-so than any others I've seen. Probobly good for flow charachteristics, but not so good for clearance requirements. They wouldn't clear the power steering pump on my car (not even close). I hung them on my wall, and purchased a set of Hooker Comps. I immediately saw the quality difference when the hookers arrived. I chalked it up to a $109 lesson and moved on. Ultimately, I'm happy I have the 1-7/8" hookers now. The Summit's are still hanging on my wall (with a dent in them at the #3 power steering interference area) if anyone's interested.




Thanks for sharing your experience with the Summit B/RB headers. I was just considering them for a 383 '70 Charger with power steering. These are the $119 set I seen in Summit I guess.
Which Hookers did you get? The standard Competition or SUPER comps? I'm working on a LOW budget build
Thanks!




I think mine are the standard "Comp's". They were around $250, if I remember correctly.


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I believe Summit headers are made by Patriot ( ??). Everyone will say they are just like Hedmans, but I've looked at both side by side, and while they follow the same bend pattern, they are not identical.
B/RB report card: I purchased a set for my B motor 67 Satellite. The primary tubes extend straight out of the flanges more-so than any others I've seen. Probobly good for flow charachteristics, but not so good for clearance requirements. They wouldn't clear the power steering pump on my car (not even close). I hung them on my wall, and purchased a set of Hooker Comps. I immediately saw the quality difference when the hookers arrived. I chalked it up to a $109 lesson and moved on. Ultimately, I'm happy I have the 1-7/8" hookers now. The Summit's are still hanging on my wall (with a dent in them at the #3 power steering interference area) if anyone's interested.




Thanks for sharing your experience with the Summit B/RB headers. I was just considering them for a 383 '70 Charger with power steering. These are the $119 set I seen in Summit I guess.
Which Hookers did you get? The standard Competition or SUPER comps? I'm working on a LOW budget build
Thanks!




why they would hit the pump...you can see in my pick above it clears it by a mile. I also had a set on a 67 coronet w/o issue.

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I believe Summit headers are made by Patriot ( ??). Everyone will say they are just like Hedmans, but I've looked at both side by side, and while they follow the same bend pattern, they are not identical.
B/RB report card: I purchased a set for my B motor 67 Satellite. The primary tubes extend straight out of the flanges more-so than any others I've seen. Probobly good for flow charachteristics, but not so good for clearance requirements. They wouldn't clear the power steering pump on my car (not even close). I hung them on my wall, and purchased a set of Hooker Comps. I immediately saw the quality difference when the hookers arrived. I chalked it up to a $109 lesson and moved on. Ultimately, I'm happy I have the 1-7/8" hookers now. The Summit's are still hanging on my wall (with a dent in them at the #3 power steering interference area) if anyone's interested.




Thanks for sharing your experience with the Summit B/RB headers. I was just considering them for a 383 '70 Charger with power steering. These are the $119 set I seen in Summit I guess.
Which Hookers did you get? The standard Competition or SUPER comps? I'm working on a LOW budget build
Thanks!




why they would hit the pump...you can see in my pick above it clears it by a mile. I also had a set on a 67 coronet w/o issue.




Now I'm confused LOL!

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The picture above looks like a '70 or later, even a '68 is going to be a little different than my '67. All I can really attest to is that they won't work on a '66 / '67 B-Body Power steering car with a B motor.


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Summit header listed for B & F body A engine, does anybody have experience w/these?
wondering about fit on drivers side, does steering link pass thru them or go underneath?
would also like to see a pic of drivers side tubes





the LA's fit my 5th ave fine, yup, they go under the steering, never touched them down, even with my car lowered ~1" in front....fit and finish was as good or better than the hedmans they replaced, no dinging required to fit, slightly better plug access than the previous hedmans.

IIRC they're made my dynomax here in the US, vs. mexico for hookers


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