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Question for Body Guys: Bubbling at Seams? #104999 08/14/08 08:32 PM 08/14/08 08:32 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 157 California D dg_dodge OP member
dg_dodge OP member D Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 157 California	Hey Guys, I always thought this patch of bubbles right below the door jamb on my Bee was rust. I showed it to body guy yesterday. He thinks it might not be rust, but instead it is (brass?) seams that are bubbling up... (I didn't quite understand what this meant..). Anyway, he said this would be a little better news than if it was rust -- which would require a metal patch. It sounded like this one could just be ground down? Have you guys ever experienced bubbles right here and how did you end up dealing with it? Thanks! 4619548-seam.jpg (101 downloads)

Re: Question for Body Guys: Bubbling at Seams? [Re: dg_dodge] #105000 08/14/08 08:37 PM 08/14/08 08:37 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,233 Eastern North Carolina cyphre666
cyphre666 Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,233 Eastern North Carolina	If it is not rust. It is getting moisture under the paint. I would say grind it down and put a coat of fiberglass to seal the metal. Then you can refinish it.

Re: Question for Body Guys: Bubbling at Seams? [Re: cyphre666] #105001 08/14/08 08:42 PM 08/14/08 08:42 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,520 Eagle, Idaho Neil The Doctor is in.
Neil The Doctor is in. Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,520 Eagle, Idaho	There is a leaded joint in that spot. Lead doesn't rust, but can fall off. I'd take the paint off and keep digging until you get to the cause. I have a feeling you will need to replace the area with lead or weld it solid and grind it flush.

Re: Question for Body Guys: Bubbling at Seams? [Re: dg_dodge] #105002 08/14/08 08:47 PM 08/14/08 08:47 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,500 delivering your oil nutso suave I Live Here
nutso suave I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,500 delivering your oil	my car has the same thing on one side...

Re: Question for Body Guys: Bubbling at Seams? [Re: dg_dodge] #105003 08/14/08 09:30 PM 08/14/08 09:30 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 901 Williamsport, PA Kingy Royal Pain
Kingy Royal Pain Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 901 Williamsport, PA	Like Neil said that is a solder sealed seam (say that three times fast) heat it up and use a putty knife or wire brush to clean that stuff off don't sand or grind it or you'll be making potholders before you know it..

Re: Question for Body Guys: Bubbling at Seams? [Re: dg_dodge] #105004 08/14/08 09:56 PM 08/14/08 09:56 PM
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 287 Greenville, N.C. BarrsRestoration enthusiast
BarrsRestoration enthusiast Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 287 Greenville, N.C.	Quote: Hey Guys, I always thought this patch of bubbles right below the door jamb on my Bee was rust. I showed it to body guy yesterday. He thinks it might not be rust, but instead it is (brass?) seams that are bubbling up... (I didn't quite understand what this meant..). Anyway, he said this would be a little better news than if it was rust -- which would require a metal patch. It sounded like this one could just be ground down? Have you guys ever experienced bubbles right here and how did you end up dealing with it? Thanks! Assuming it's original metal in that area, most likely it's either filler turning loose that someone wiped on top of the lead joint, or rust under the lead, pushing it outward. Filler will give some when pushed. I've seen both in the past. If you are willing, stick the tip of a pocket knife into it and pick the paint off. If it's soft and silver, you have rust under it. Steve www.clarkclassic.com

Re: Question for Body Guys: Bubbling at Seams? [Re: dg_dodge] #105005 08/15/08 02:48 AM 08/15/08 02:48 AM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 22,696 Bitopia J jcc If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
jcc If you can't dazzle em with diamonds.. J Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 22,696 Bitopia	But isn't the bottom line here is water/moisture is somehow getting thru or behind the paint to/thru the metal, and if that is not stopped any repair will only be temporary? Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.

Re: Question for Body Guys: Bubbling at Seams? [Re: jcc] #105006 08/15/08 07:53 AM 08/15/08 07:53 AM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,304 WI RestoRick top fuel
RestoRick top fuel Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,304 WI	Pretty much the same amount of work no matter what the cause by what I'm seeing. It'll have to go to bare clean metal and address what is or isn't there. On the original seam it was leaded over an open spot welded lap joint. In harsh exposure over time moisture finds it's way through the seam under the lead and creates rust. Best way to fix it(IMHO), is to remove the factory lead, clean up any rust, weld the seam solid, then re-lead it. In this case you may even find hole(s) in the underlying metal that will require a metalpatch. Rick

Re: Question for Body Guys: Bubbling at Seams? [Re: jcc] #105007 08/15/08 10:14 AM 08/15/08 10:14 AM
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 287 Greenville, N.C. BarrsRestoration enthusiast
BarrsRestoration enthusiast Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 287 Greenville, N.C.	Quote: But isn't the bottom line here is water/moisture is somehow getting thru or behind the paint to/thru the metal, and if that is not stopped any repair will only be temporary? Moisture (rain, washing car) gets there by way of the 1/4 window. It gets past the window sweep and runs down into the 1/4. That's why the factory formed drain openings in the lower 1/4 pinch welds.

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