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What is that condenser looking item on the back of the dash that goes to the voltage limiter. I'm replacing my circuit board and VL and need to know what this is and should I replace it at the same time. I accidently fried the power circuit on the board checking it. I know, I know.
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Re: Voltage limiter [Re: FPD031] #1048609
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On a side note, has anyone used the circuit board with the built in voltage limiter?
Dave

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What is that condenser looking item on the back of the dash that goes to the voltage limiter. I'm replacing my circuit board and VL and need to know what this is and should I replace it at the same time. I accidently fried the power circuit on the board checking it. I know, I know.
Dave
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The condensor is for noise suppression of the AM radio, when the voltage limiter makes/breaks its internal contacts..
Also the condensor helps to absorb part of the spark that can burn/pit the voltage limiter's internal contact points..

Just my $0.02...

Re: Voltage limiter [Re: FPD031] #1048611
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The voltage limiter works using a bimetal strip that makes and breaks contact at a predetermined rate so the output is 5 volts. Like anything that arc, sparks or interupts power it will generate radio interferrence. The capacitor or condensor (same thing, different nomenclature) lowers the amount of radio noise generated. Yes, they do wear out.
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Re: Voltage limiter [Re: denfireguy] #1048612
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So where do you get the condensor?


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So where do you get the condensor?




Best action is to upgrade to the solid state voltage limiter, no contacts so no condensor is required..
Sean @ RedLine Gauges carries them..

Here is the link..
http://www.redlinegaugeworks.com

Just my $0.02...

Re: Voltage limiter [Re: Sinitro] #1048614
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Red Line's web site wasn't much help. Limited parts. Seems like it's more for service or conversions. Didn't see the voltage limiter. Found it alot of other places though.
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Well, since nobody posted on the circuit board with the built in limiter, I think I'm gonna try that. It's actually cheaper than buying a board and limiter seperate. Year One is the only place I can find right now. Price is Ok with the discount. Thanks for the info on the radio suppressor. Won't need that with the Music Master radio.
Dave

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There was a magazine article in Mopar Muscle November 1992 issue that told how to build them using components from Radio Shack.

I have built at least 3 and they work great. I think Redline charges about $50.00 for them but you can do it yourself for less than $10.00 in parts and supplies and a couple of hours time.

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Thanks, but I'll pass. That's what got me in this mess in the 1st place, puttin volts where there wasn't supposed to be any. I"ll just go with the built-in limiter. Thanks though.
Dave

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I think there was a member here that was making circuit boards. I think it was in the New Products section. Just found it. http://premiumdashdecals.com/


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Go to Radio Shack and get a .05 micro-farad, 600 volt capacitor and wire it in parallel with the current one. When they go bad, they get leaky and placing a new one in parallel will increase the total capacitance.
Or you can replace the limiter with one from Dash Worx. Their ads are on this board.
http://rt-eng.com/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
I did go with the Dash Worx limiter. It is physically the same size.
I passed on the three terminal regulators as I have not had good luck with them in other applications, none of them automotive. The current on the dash is uncomfortably close to the device maximum current, I like to see around 75% head room in a design like that and it just isn't there.
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Re: Voltage limiter [Re: az426john] #1048620
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There was a magazine article in Mopar Muscle November 1992 issue that told how to build them using components from Radio Shack.

I have built at least 3 and they work great. I think Redline charges about $50.00 for them but you can do it yourself for less than $10.00 in parts and supplies and a couple of hours time.




I got 1 from RedLine for about $30 @ the Spring Fling..
What I like about RedLine is that they are a small, fully experienced shop just for gauges and electrical things. They are located about 30 minutes away and I like to talk/deal directly to a live, knowledgible person...

Just my $0.02...

Re: Voltage limiter [Re: Sinitro] #1048621
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Way back when, when I was in the parts business, that part was listed in the books as an Instrument Cluster Voltage Regulator. I've got dozens of em, and would be happy to donate one to your cause, Bill

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Thanks Bill, I appreciate it but I ordered the circuit board with the built in voltage limiter. Nice thought though.
Dave

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I ordered the circuit board with the built in voltage limiter



Who did you order it from?


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anyone got a clue on what to do when the limiter is in the gauge itself? there are no more gauges,as in late 50 early 60 c bodies

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I ordered the circuit board with the built in voltage limiter



Who did you order it from?




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