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Re: What would it take....
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to make a stock steel crank 440 run 9.70's in a 2900# A-body?
Put it in the trunk of a smallblock car. 
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Re: What would it take....
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to make a stock steel crank 440 run 9.70's in a 2900# A-body?,I need suggestions and combo's including heads and cam's. 
ProSports old car is already doing it.
Turned down stock 440 crank in a 400 block, 451 ci. mp 590 cam, 11.1 or so. Was 3050#, Now, maybe lighter! 
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Re: What would it take....
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My estimate is about $12,000.00.... 
Fred, my reaction to your statement is....(look at the expression on the cat in the picture under my name)
Rick,,,,,,,,,,,oh never mind.
you guys aren't helping 
Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.
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Re: What would it take....
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Bill I think it would cost alot of money to switch a small block car over to a big block car, especially when you add up all the little stuff like headers, tranny case, converter, maybe radiator?? But if you really want to do it you could build a mild pump gas 451 low deck or 470 with CNC Eddy heads, or Victors, with a matching solid or roller cam and run 9.50's-9.80's in your car all day. My old DartSport as Sport440 mentioned went 9.77 at Norwalk last September. Or you could just buy my purple 69' and run those numbers on pump gas at 3200 pounds. 
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Re: What would it take....
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Decent piston Crane R280 cam Ported 452/906 heads M1 w/adapter and a 1050 Compression 14:1 + Good machine work and a little attention to details Keep the timing in check and live with the minimal cap walk. Hardly 12k, more like 3k (assuming you have a carb and can do some work yourself), and will exceed your ET expectations. More perf should be expected with a set of heads, but not necessary.  Good Luck
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Re: What would it take....
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B1 heads would be the easiest way...
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Re: What would it take....
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to make a stock steel crank 440 run 9.70's in a 2900# A-body?,I need suggestions and combo's including heads and cam's.
Why would that be hard????
I dont think so at all.
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Re: What would it take....
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Somewhere around 680HP...Probably could get there with ported Victor MW heads and a nice roller cam.
Might even make more than that if you've got good headers, carb, etc...
Brian Hafliger
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Re: What would it take....
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Bill I think it would cost alot of money to switch a small block car over to a big block car, especially when you add up all the little stuff like headers, tranny case, converter, maybe radiator??
But if you really want to do it you could build a mild pump gas 451 low deck or 470 with CNC Eddy heads, or Victors, with a matching solid or roller cam and run 9.50's-9.80's in your car all day. My old DartSport as Sport440 mentioned went 9.77 at Norwalk last September.
Or you could just buy my purple 69' and run those numbers on pump gas at 3200 pounds.
Your old Dart Sport was a great running combo. Maybe you should tell the details of that great running combo. That combo just clicked perfectly.  Ron
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Re: What would it take....
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Cost factor would be a problem Bill... if I recall you run 10.0 now so for .3 you want to change over everything you have now... trans, engine, headers, conv.... no way is that worth it... time to start looking a little closer at your current package.... or loose some weight on the car 
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Re: What would it take....
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Stock block with a affordable stroker kit (493/499) Indy SR heads with some port work (home porting in this case) Indy Intake, Dominator, small roller cam. 5800+ converter, and 4.56 gears. Turn it 6600 rpms..
No problem, actually the car in this example is closer to 3200 lbs and runs 6.oh's in the 8th mile.
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Re: What would it take....
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Not to pile on......but why in the WORLD are you asking 
Don! calm down buddy, ain't nothing happened yet or soon...just askin' questions thats how I learn,,,,,,,,,,,,besides it proves that you really were payin' attention.
Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.
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