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heim joints/rod ends ? #1043704
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how 'bout a discussion on heim joints or rod ends. such as uses for "standard" vs lined[nylon/kevlar race] vs cromoly. also include thoughts on those "seals" available - the rubber disc cover bonded to a thin washer. as always, thanks in advance !

Re: heim joints/rod ends ? [Re: moparx] #1043705
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I usually buy the moly ones... yes they are pricey but
I dont want them to break... I had some cheap ones break
on my steering.... also make sure you use the high
angular heims on the steering... I havent tried the
dust covers yet but I do have some for my currant build

Re: heim joints/rod ends ? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1043706
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mr p,, what high angular hiem ?? reason for asking i need to channge up my steering from the stock rod ends to a hiem, and also what recomends do you have as for as a spacer, metal / aluminum??

Re: heim joints/rod ends ? [Re: dennismopar73] #1043707
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mr p,, what high angular hiem ?? reason for asking i need to channge up my steering from the stock rod ends to a hiem, and also what recomends do you have as for as a spacer, metal / aluminum??





High angular heims give you more movement so the tie
rods wont go into bind... a standard usually WILL go
into bind at full travel... thats the reason mine
broke... the high angular will give you about 12* to
18* more angle (dependent on size)... as for the spacer
alum is fine if you have enough diameter so it cant
pivot

Re: heim joints/rod ends ? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1043708
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Where do you find the high angular ones?

Re: heim joints/rod ends ? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1043709
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i thought thats what it was ,, wasnt for sure,
thanks,
when we done my front end , it front steer now but the issue is that
when tires come off ground the rod ends these are stock ends, are touching the strut bars
,not good, so a fellow racer said in order to get up away from it
to raise the ends and put hiem on it still worried about the arch travel, i have the book that tells me about that issue , but rather confusing as to the fix , ?

Re: heim joints/rod ends ? [Re: ADakotaRTGuy] #1043710
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Where do you find the high angular ones?




I get them through Summit but they dont show them...
I give Summit the P/N and they have them drop shipped
to the house(this company doesnt deal direct)
Also they have a inset thing to change the standard
heim to a high angle..... they are acually called
high misalignment

http://www.fkrodends.com/HRSMXTHINT25.html

Re: heim joints/rod ends ? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1043711
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Aurora chrome moly is the only rod end that I will use.

Leon


Career best 8.02 @ 169 at 3050# and 10" tires small block power.
Re: heim joints/rod ends ? [Re: Leon441] #1043712
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Aurora chrome moly is the only rod end that I will use.

Leon




I use Aurora most of the time also

Re: heim joints/rod ends ? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1043713
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QA1 has a large selection of whatever you need. Ask for Dave or Jeff.

Re: heim joints/rod ends ? [Re: Dyno1] #1043714
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moly is always the best for suspension parts in my opinion due to the stresses involved. but what about other uses, such as push-pull motions in brake pedal rods, throttle linkage, battery cutoff switches, etc. also, is the general consensus more to a "lined" race[nylon/kevlar material] than non-lined[metal-to-metal] race?

Re: heim joints/rod ends ? [Re: moparx] #1043715
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moly is always the best for suspension parts in my opinion due to the stresses involved. but what about other uses, such as push-pull motions in brake pedal rods, throttle linkage, battery cutoff switches, etc. also, is the general consensus more to a "lined" race[nylon/kevlar material] than non-lined[metal-to-metal] race?





The smaller stuff you dont need the big dollar stuff
like throttle... I dont even use a heim on the brake
pedal... tie rods you want good ones... if its a
chassis point(ladder bars/4-links I use the moly
no liner...I dont want that getting beat out and
having a loose/worn out heim... I clean and lube
them but you can try the dust covers


Re: heim joints/rod ends ? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1043716
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Chrome moly, teflon lined FK rod ends period!

Re: heim joints/rod ends ? [Re: Al_Alguire] #1043717
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http://www.rodendsupply.com/index.php

These guys seemed pretty fair on price


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Re: heim joints/rod ends ? [Re: LA360] #1043718
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Ruff Stuff Off Road has some of the best prices on Heims that I have seen...


I am truckless..
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Aurora XAM and XAB is a quality product, as many other out there

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What do you guys think of these?

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-MAXL10T/

Re: heim joints/rod ends ? [Re: ADakotaRTGuy] #1043722
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here is the setup i fabbed for my humpback. master is behind dash @ 90*. i just used the "economy" rod ends. strong enough for this application ?

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Re: heim joints/rod ends ? [Re: moparx] #1043723
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here is the setup i fabbed for my humpback. master is behind dash @ 90*. i just used the "economy" rod ends. strong enough for this application ?





Should work fine

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What do you guys think of these?

Ive use those before on a customers car(he suppied)
for a 4 link... they lasted pretty good







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