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heim joints/rod ends ?

Posted By: moparx

heim joints/rod ends ? - 07/31/11 01:10 PM

how 'bout a discussion on heim joints or rod ends. such as uses for "standard" vs lined[nylon/kevlar race] vs cromoly. also include thoughts on those "seals" available - the rubber disc cover bonded to a thin washer. as always, thanks in advance !
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: heim joints/rod ends ? - 07/31/11 02:08 PM

I usually buy the moly ones... yes they are pricey but
I dont want them to break... I had some cheap ones break
on my steering.... also make sure you use the high
angular heims on the steering... I havent tried the
dust covers yet but I do have some for my currant build
Posted By: dennismopar73

Re: heim joints/rod ends ? - 07/31/11 02:22 PM

mr p,, what high angular hiem ?? reason for asking i need to channge up my steering from the stock rod ends to a hiem, and also what recomends do you have as for as a spacer, metal / aluminum??
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: heim joints/rod ends ? - 07/31/11 02:34 PM

Quote:

mr p,, what high angular hiem ?? reason for asking i need to channge up my steering from the stock rod ends to a hiem, and also what recomends do you have as for as a spacer, metal / aluminum??





High angular heims give you more movement so the tie
rods wont go into bind... a standard usually WILL go
into bind at full travel... thats the reason mine
broke... the high angular will give you about 12* to
18* more angle (dependent on size)... as for the spacer
alum is fine if you have enough diameter so it cant
pivot
Posted By: ADakotaRTGuy

Re: heim joints/rod ends ? - 07/31/11 02:42 PM

Where do you find the high angular ones?
Posted By: dennismopar73

Re: heim joints/rod ends ? - 07/31/11 02:47 PM

i thought thats what it was ,, wasnt for sure,
thanks,
when we done my front end , it front steer now but the issue is that
when tires come off ground the rod ends these are stock ends, are touching the strut bars
,not good, so a fellow racer said in order to get up away from it
to raise the ends and put hiem on it still worried about the arch travel, i have the book that tells me about that issue , but rather confusing as to the fix , ?
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: heim joints/rod ends ? - 07/31/11 02:58 PM

Quote:

Where do you find the high angular ones?




I get them through Summit but they dont show them...
I give Summit the P/N and they have them drop shipped
to the house(this company doesnt deal direct)
Also they have a inset thing to change the standard
heim to a high angle..... they are acually called
high misalignment

http://www.fkrodends.com/HRSMXTHINT25.html
Posted By: Leon441

Re: heim joints/rod ends ? - 07/31/11 03:02 PM

Aurora chrome moly is the only rod end that I will use.

Leon
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: heim joints/rod ends ? - 07/31/11 03:18 PM

Quote:

Aurora chrome moly is the only rod end that I will use.

Leon




I use Aurora most of the time also
Posted By: Dyno1

Re: heim joints/rod ends ? - 07/31/11 03:25 PM

QA1 has a large selection of whatever you need. Ask for Dave or Jeff.
Posted By: moparx

Re: heim joints/rod ends ? - 08/02/11 02:10 AM

moly is always the best for suspension parts in my opinion due to the stresses involved. but what about other uses, such as push-pull motions in brake pedal rods, throttle linkage, battery cutoff switches, etc. also, is the general consensus more to a "lined" race[nylon/kevlar material] than non-lined[metal-to-metal] race?
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: heim joints/rod ends ? - 08/02/11 04:11 AM

Quote:

moly is always the best for suspension parts in my opinion due to the stresses involved. but what about other uses, such as push-pull motions in brake pedal rods, throttle linkage, battery cutoff switches, etc. also, is the general consensus more to a "lined" race[nylon/kevlar material] than non-lined[metal-to-metal] race?





The smaller stuff you dont need the big dollar stuff
like throttle... I dont even use a heim on the brake
pedal... tie rods you want good ones... if its a
chassis point(ladder bars/4-links I use the moly
no liner...I dont want that getting beat out and
having a loose/worn out heim... I clean and lube
them but you can try the dust covers

Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: heim joints/rod ends ? - 08/02/11 04:43 AM

Chrome moly, teflon lined FK rod ends period!
Posted By: LA360

Re: heim joints/rod ends ? - 08/02/11 07:14 AM

http://www.rodendsupply.com/index.php

These guys seemed pretty fair on price
Posted By: 340SHORTY

Re: heim joints/rod ends ? - 08/02/11 08:55 AM

Ruff Stuff Off Road has some of the best prices on Heims that I have seen...
Posted By: RT540

Re: heim joints/rod ends ? - 08/02/11 10:24 AM

Aurora XAM and XAB is a quality product, as many other out there
Posted By: theclutcher

Re: heim joints/rod ends ? - 08/02/11 02:57 PM

Chassisshops.com
Posted By: ADakotaRTGuy

Re: heim joints/rod ends ? - 08/02/11 07:01 PM

What do you guys think of these?

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-MAXL10T/
Posted By: moparx

Re: heim joints/rod ends ? - 08/03/11 02:04 AM

here is the setup i fabbed for my humpback. master is behind dash @ 90*. i just used the "economy" rod ends. strong enough for this application ?


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Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: heim joints/rod ends ? - 08/03/11 02:29 AM

Quote:

here is the setup i fabbed for my humpback. master is behind dash @ 90*. i just used the "economy" rod ends. strong enough for this application ?





Should work fine

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What do you guys think of these?

Ive use those before on a customers car(he suppied)
for a 4 link... they lasted pretty good
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