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Re: HP for $$$
[Re: 1Fast340]
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07/21/11 06:19 PM
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Mr.Yuck
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454 bigblock chevy would be my choice to make the most power/$ in that range.
 no you're a mopar guy...stay on task here.
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Re: HP for $$$
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
#1037490
07/21/11 06:46 PM
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So I was getting heck on another post about BB vs SB so I'll start my own. Say you wanted to make 550-600 HP. Say you had a limited budget and you wanted to make a decnet reliable bracet car that you wanted to drive more than just to the track. Would it be easeier/cheaper say with a Small Block 360 (which I know can be made fast) or a Big block 440. You may toss in 340's 383's, Hemis and the like if you like. For S & G's we'll say the car weighs 3400lbs. A light B-body or heavy A-body.
Aren't there enough my pecker is bigger/better than yours threads going on ?
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Re: HP for $$$
[Re: JohnRR]
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07/21/11 06:51 PM
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Mr.Yuck
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So I was getting heck on another post about BB vs SB so I'll start my own. Say you wanted to make 550-600 HP. Say you had a limited budget and you wanted to make a decnet reliable bracet car that you wanted to drive more than just to the track. Would it be easeier/cheaper say with a Small Block 360 (which I know can be made fast) or a Big block 440. You may toss in 340's 383's, Hemis and the like if you like. For S & G's we'll say the car weighs 3400lbs. A light B-body or heavy A-body.
Aren't there enough my pecker is bigger/better than yours threads going on ?
John technically your 383 qualifies you for "big pecker" status. 
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Re: HP for $$$
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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07/21/11 07:14 PM
07/21/11 07:14 PM
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Say you wanted to make 550-600 HP Say you had a limited budget make a decnet reliable bracet car that you wanted to drive more than just to the track. All 3 comments point to a bb when combined. Drive to WalMart, buy groceries, stop off at track, tech in, drag race for the night/weekend, get back in, drive home, then start over. Bet the small block would be a legend in its own drivers mind, temporarily speaking. Since it would wear out quicker. Cause if you have 550/600 hp in a small block you will not be running 13's,12's, or high 11's. Which means your RPM's will make more wear n tare. BB would be just another adventure. Still run low 11's and have the groceries in the trunk for traction 
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Re: HP for $$$
[Re: emarine01]
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07/21/11 08:05 PM
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viperblue72
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Mr. Yuck you already know the answer to this, as most here. It would generally be easier unless your car is already set up for big block. But also for the sake of small block argument a 408 is simple and cheap to build and 550hp is easy with a w-2 or eddie head ported. I had one that ran 11.0s@122 on pump would a 440 run better? Maybe a little but when you gotta change headers, tranny, then no room for power brakes and steering the stroked sb can make sense. 
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Re: HP for $$$
[Re: dogdays]
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07/21/11 08:13 PM
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No one is going to try to make 600 hp with stock pistons, so that's not even an issue. It'll be far easier to make the hp with a larger engine, though.
Of course, the cheapest way to go fast is Nitrous.
R.
well i wouldnt say no one. we had a stock stroke 440 with six pack pistons and 452 heads that flowed 304. that motor made a shade over 600 hp.
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Re: HP for $$$
[Re: RemCharger]
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07/21/11 08:22 PM
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Cheap, reliable, 600HP? Not for a long time, although it's better now. Haven't you heard of the saying Cheap, Fast, Good; pick two. I would start with lightening the darn car, then build a stroker 400 or 440.  BTW, why are all these posts about 500 HP lately? Sounds like a bunch of chevy bench racers reading the Car Craft covers. Before asking this, ask yourself if you have driven or ridden in a true well built 400 HP car.
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Re: HP for $$$
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
#1037501
07/21/11 08:35 PM
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So I was getting heck on another post about BB vs SB so I'll start my own. Say you wanted to make 550-600 HP. Say you had a limited budget and you wanted to make a decnet reliable bracet car that you wanted to drive more than just to the track. Would it be easeier/cheaper say with a Small Block 360 (which I know can be made fast) or a Big block 440. You may toss in 340's 383's, Hemis and the like if you like. For S & G's we'll say the car weighs 3400lbs. A light B-body or heavy A-body.
What you state about the weight I would NEVER do... I can
make make a light car easier and cheaper than making
HP so IF I had my choice it would be a light car
and a SB.... hell if your talking a 10.40 car I can
do it with 400 HP and not be breaking the bank OR
the engine and be a great bracket car
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Re: HP for $$$
[Re: emarine01]
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07/21/11 09:37 PM
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360s are all dog engines from Mopar... 22cc dish pistons .100 down in the hole never helped the power thing.... so the fact that there were many flat top 440s built @ the factory makes this post a non issue
Umm??? Im pretty sure he was talking about taking a 360 and turn it into a 408" 
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