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No not ashamed of what it runs. I grude race it for a litte coin on the spray everyonce in a while. Let me know if your hemi would like some. Its just a little small block on radial tires with stock suspension how fast could it be...

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Ok....how about I get me the standard 150 shot and we see what happends? just a stock stroke 440 in a heavy full bodied, full interior 70 Charger

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No not ashamed of what it runs. I grude race it for a litte coin on the spray everyonce in a while. Let me know if your hemi would like some. Its just a little small block on radial tires with stock suspension how fast could it be...

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Ok....how about I get me the standard 150 shot and we see what happends? just a stock stroke 440 in a heavy full bodied, full interior 70 Charger

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Hey Yuck, you need to put your car together and see what it'll pull on a hard pass. Forget the nitrous, internet, 4 bbl and all that.

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a stroked big block would be easier but I dont like working on them because limited engine compartment room

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move up to a b-body...

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Oh yeah let's get a car that weighs 1000 more pounds that makes sense. I think there's a few pot stirrers here that if they got their butts off the couch and actually went to the drag strip they would find that their porky car with a porky motor ISN'T running circles around all the small blocks. Its just a matter of preference. Plenty of peeps here running small blocks that are faster than your big blocks guys....SORRY that's just how it is. easier and cheaper with a big block.....yes. that's why I'm converting.
But that isn't what this post was about. It was about

Do you go pick on the young kids on the honda sight for fun too?

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mr.yuck i was going with original post horsepower for the money. to me 2200 or 4000 dollars for a half second is pretty expensive. between big block and small block good quality parts about same price then add 4000 dollars just to keep up with big block just ain't cheap.give me half the supercharger cost with big block and it will blow the doors off the small block

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My buddy with a 406 small block and a liitle procharger F-2 on pump gas and 15 pounds of boost made 711 hp to the rear tire. Figure thats 100 hp in drivetrain losses and 150 hp to turn the supercharger so thats almost a 1000 hp on pump gas and a small block lets see your combo for a n/a big block on pumpgas that makes that kind of steam!!

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budget build 550hp how much $$ are you going to have in the small block.how much $$ are you going to have in the hemi.and then how much money will you have in a 383 400 or 440.

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right, nobody said you can't make 550 w/ a SB, but it can be done much easier and cheaper w/ a BB. I didn't add Hemi's because hey are too expensive for most. I've know guys that took a lower milage 440 apart in the grage, re-ring, quick hone, new t-chain, cam, clean up the heads, reassemble add used intake, headers, 750DP and run mid 12's in a heavy B-body. (BTW that's 11's in an A-body) Not going to do that w/ a small block. Not as cheap anyway.

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I think some of you need to do a actual price
comparison to see whats what... take a head and price
the same head in both BB and SB and do the same for
the rest of the parts to see what the price difference
really is(dont take a cheap 440 part to a expensive
SB part... try to make it the same part)... yes I
know I can buy the big dollar heads for a SB and have
to get all the pricey stuff thats needed to go with them

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Weather you chew up the horsepower off the front of the crank or the back with trannys etc the motor still needs to make that horsepower. So that motor see's approx 960 HP worth of stress on the crank rods pistons block.

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You are saying your friends car ran a 6.11 in the 1/8 mile before he had a problem further down the track. That converts over to a 9.52 1/4 mile time. Unless his car is super heavy I think his 800+ HP car appears to be a DOG. No wonder you guys don't like to show your time slips. [/quote

As stated on other post the car is a protouring car running 17in tires 6 piston bear brakes 13 front 12 in the back full leather interior was just a feature car in a big mag runs on pump gas should go 9.50s at the track in street trim and is a dog? What does that make your sons car a super slug? 10.50s in a car set up to go race.

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Sorry he's not here to defend himself as he is at the track racing his car and not here . He added 200-300# more to his car this week as he was told to slow it down more till he gets the roll bar in after running a 11.40 on the brakes last week in the 5th round. I would love to see how fast it would go in the Fall with the 300-400# he's added so far out of it and the four barrel hooked back up.

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As stated on other post the car is a protouring car running 17in tires 6 piston bear brakes 13 front 12 in the back full leather interior was just a feature car in a big mag runs on pump gas should go 9.50s at the track in street trim and is a dog? What does that make your sons car a super slug? R10.50s in a car set up to go race.
Sorry he's not here to defend himself as her is at the track racing his car and not here . He added 200-300# t hmore to his car this week as he was told to slow it down more till he gets the roll bar in after running a 11.40 on the brakes last week in the 5th round. I would love to see how fast it would go in the Fall with the 300-400# he's added so far out of it and the four barrel hooked back up. [/quote

So I see you cant answer questions. How do you figure a pumpgas small block on 17 in dragradials protouring car in street trim through exaust to the rear bumper, full leather interior front and rear seats that should run 9.50s is a slug. I think there are alot of people on here with race cars that are that fast. I am asking you not your son, asked for your opinion on your sons car not his.

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Don't put words in my mouth I didn't say its a slug,I said its a dog. I base a lot of my judgement calls on dollar spent per HP. I did not read your other post as it keeps going in circles. To compare your friends engines to my sons is just crazy. Now when he wants to step up his program and add a POWER ADDER and a few cubic inches you may have a fair comparison but for now its a 10 second 360 with a stock cast crank,520 lift cam,and a set of heads his Dad did some scratching on.

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As stated on other post the car is a protouring car running 17in tires 6 piston bear brakes 13 front 12 in the back full leather interior was just a feature car in a big mag runs on pump gas should go 9.50s at the track in street trim and is a dog? What does that make your sons car a super slug? R10.50s in a car set up to go race.
Sorry he's not here to defend himself as her is at the track racing his car and not here . He added 200-300# t hmore to his car this week as he was told to slow it down more till he gets the roll bar in after running a 11.40 on the brakes last week in the 5th round. I would love to see how fast it would go in the Fall with the 300-400# he's added so far out of it and the four barrel hooked back up. [/quote

So I see you cant answer questions. How do you figure a pumpgas small block on 17 in dragradials protouring car in street trim through exaust to the rear bumper, full leather interior front and rear seats that should run 9.50s is a slug. I think there are alot of people on here with race cars that are that fast. I am asking you not your son, asked for your opinion on your sons car not his.

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Don't put words in my mouth I didn't say its a slug,I said its a dog. I base a lot of my judgement calls on dollar spent per HP. I did not read your other post as it keeps going in circles. To compare your friends engines to my sons is just crazy. Now when he wants to step up his program and add a POWER ADDER and a few cubic inches you may have a fair comparison but for now its a 10 second 360 with a stock cast crank,520 lift cam,and a set of heads his Dad did some scratching on.

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Well since it a small block chevy he has a lot less in then any sbm build. I believe its around 15,500 total with the blower. So I guess then you just spout off your mouth with out knowing all the facts, since you didn't bother to read the rest of the info.NICE

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hey mryuck have you seen that stock 440 cast piston motor the supercharger store built, : wait bolted on. i think it made like 800 horsepower see you do not have to be a rocket scientist to build a big block just a socket set

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Would love to see those cast piston after a few races oh wait I would only have to look at the track to see them laying there. And how much was the blower set up fromthem. I priced a f1 from them complete with out intercooler was 5500.00 not cheap!

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darn, I bought these engines and 1 more for 2k with all the parts to put them back together. A race shop in New Orleans was shutting down. Bargain deals are out there. But blowers don't count. The 392 is .030 over with jahns pistons, big cam and 6 carbs. It was a rather cheap build

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If you got all that in the picture for $2k,you either
{1} Had a very large handgin,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,or
{2} Bought it 20 years ago


Nice score!!!

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Nope, but there was a member that had a 61-62 dart w/ a junk yard cast crank/piston 440 w/ a 671 that ran high 10's with nothing fancy...

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WOW 440 with a 671 blower that ran high 10's!
Now I understand why some of you like big blocks only

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darn, I bought these engines and 1 more for 2k with all the parts to put them back together. A race shop in New Orleans was shutting down. Bargain deals are out there. But blowers don't count. The 392 is .030 over with jahns pistons, big cam and 6 carbs. It was a rather cheap build

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If you got all that in the picture for $2k,you either
{1} Had a very large handgin,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,or
{2} Bought it 20 years ago


Nice score!!!

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Yeah it's been a while, you aught to see the rest of the storage for parts. I go broke buying deals up. I bought a b body 8 3/4 rearend with 391's in it day before yesterday for 70 bucks. There's gold out in these hills Found an R5 p7 roller cam, dry sump, gear drive, intake, to pan for 5k yesterday. Short block was assembled to

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Nope, but there was a member that had a 61-62 dart w/ a junk yard cast crank/piston 440 w/ a 671 that ran high 10's with nothing fancy...

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WOW 440 with a 671 blower that ran high 10's!
Now I understand why some of you like big blocks only

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ummm why don't you go do the same to a low compression 360 and stick it in a HUGE car (those darts were big) and get back with me on that. I'll even let you use your king kong 340 if ya like. My guess is you be in the 12's .

You guys with your s/b's are missing the point. What ever you do to a S/B I can do to a BB and it will be faster PERIOD. I will get my 500HP much easier and cheaper than you will. I can get my 500 using iron heads stock crank, rods, hydro cam, stock shafts and rockers and you can't.

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I can get my 500 using iron heads stock crank, rods, hydro cam, stock shafts and rockers and you can't.

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I'd like to see this - 500 at the crank with all stock parts

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I can get my 500 using iron heads stock crank, rods, hydro cam, stock shafts and rockers and you can't.

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I'd like to see this - 500 at the crank with all stock parts

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why's that? You can get it with old school TRW 10.5:1 pistons, LY rods, stock crank, home ported 915 or 906 heads, 1 7/8" headers, RPM intake and a 509 cam.
Think not? Here's a freinds old set up in a full steel 67 GTX. As mention above stock carnk 440 w/ TRW's ported 915 heads, 1 7/8 headers, 509 cam, Stock shafts/rockers and a six-pack. Not sure what stall but he had 4.10's and ran 11.80 @ 116. That's about 465 at the rear wheels. I'll bet that's over 500 at the crank. Could be equaled w/ a single 4. I have another friend that ran the same thing except a 557 solid in a 70 4 speed RR, he had about the same #'s w/ more mph but I'm guessing the RR is a little heavier. Nothing fancy about either set-up.

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The average et/mph for the B-Body 440 combo is around the 11.80-11.30 range. Anything else, stroked 440 or not, is a bonus. Smallblocks, built
right can reach the 11.40-11'teens range, stock stroke, (it's been proven) so I would be wary of the races picked. The "true" costs of build where it consists of money spent where it's needed, will determine the cheapest build. And
for the sake of advancing technology, it isn't always the Big Block.

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I can get my 500 using iron heads stock crank, rods, hydro cam, stock shafts and rockers and you can't.

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I'd like to see this - 500 at the crank with all stock parts

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why's that? You can get it with old school TRW 10.5:1 pistons, LY rods, stock crank, home ported 915 or 906 heads, 1 7/8" headers, RPM intake and a 509 cam.
Think not? Here's a freinds old set up in a full steel 67 GTX. As mention above stock carnk 440 w/ TRW's ported 915 heads, 1 7/8 headers, 509 cam, Stock shafts/rockers and a six-pack. Not sure what stall but he had 4.10's and ran 11.80 @ 116. That's about 465 at the rear wheels. I'll bet that's over 500 at the crank. Could be equaled w/ a single 4. I have another friend that ran the same thing except a 557 solid in a 70 4 speed RR, he had about the same #'s w/ more mph but I'm guessing the RR is a little heavier. Nothing fancy about either set-up.

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The average et/mph for the B-Body 440 combo is around the 11.80-11.30 range. Anything else, stroked 440 or not, is a bonus. Smallblocks, built
right can reach the 11.40-11'teens range, stock stroke, (it's been proven) so I would be wary of the races picked. The "true" costs of build where it consists of money spent where it's needed, will determine the cheapest build. And
for the sake of advancing technology, it isn't always the Big Block.

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I can get my 500 using iron heads stock crank, rods, hydro cam, stock shafts and rockers and you can't.

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I'd like to see this - 500 at the crank with all stock parts

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why's that? You can get it with old school TRW 10.5:1 pistons, LY rods, stock crank, home ported 915 or 906 heads, 1 7/8" headers, RPM intake and a 509 cam.
Think not? Here's a freinds old set up in a full steel 67 GTX. As mention above stock carnk 440 w/ TRW's ported 915 heads, 1 7/8 headers, 509 cam, Stock shafts/rockers and a six-pack. Not sure what stall but he had 4.10's and ran 11.80 @ 116. That's about 465 at the rear wheels. I'll bet that's over 500 at the crank. Could be equaled w/ a single 4. I have another friend that ran the same thing except a 557 solid in a 70 4 speed RR, he had about the same #'s w/ more mph but I'm guessing the RR is a little heavier. Nothing fancy about either set-up.

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The average et/mph for the B-Body 440 combo is around the 11.80-11.30 range. Anything else, stroked 440 or not, is a bonus. Smallblocks, built
right can reach the 11.40-11'teens range, stock stroke, (it's been proven) so I would be wary of the races picked. The "true" costs of build where it consists of money spent where it's needed, will determine the cheapest build. And
for the sake of advancing technology, it isn't always the Big Block.

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not a chance you can take a stock stroke 340 and use an old school 509, home port job, stock valve train, headers and all drop it in a b-body and run close to 11's. I'd bet it would run in the 13's (if that) They same combo I wrote about above would run 10's easy in an A-body w/o a huge amount of stall or steap gears. Nobody is saying you can make a sb run...

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No..You are just against the idea of one (smallblock) in a B-Body, RUNNING HARD!!
Let me ask one question... Is everything that you COMPARE have to be in a B-Body chassis? I do understand and respect your combo - a classic example of what to do in a HEAVY chassis. The et's listed above were for their RESPECTIVE chassis (ie: 440 B-Body, 340/360 A-body). Most racers who run street/strip or all out track
DO lighten up B-Bodies. It's been an ongoing Mopar
tradition since the time of the Max-Wedge and Race HEMI era. Saves parts, less breakage and reduces the hp absorbed (in chassis) to move the vehicle. Granted the sky is the limit for displacement and with that in saying, you COULD put a two-door C body
into the high to mid 11's with a correctly built
540+ (stroker) wedge and some weight lost in the RIGHT places. But thats just ONE of a few odd examples. Smallblocks CAN power a 3500 lb B-body (stripper model/w driver) to the 12-12.5 sec zone, with nary a problem. It's the SAME weight as an average A-body, but a WIDER chassis (mass) to move! But, it's not as efficient compared to the Big Block. As CompSync put it, it's all about
careful choice of parts and CORRECT assembly. There are LOTS of people who are talented at extracting power from a stock stroke 340, since it's rise from the street scene in 68'-69' to the battle zones of the Modified Production classes till late 70's. There's still ONGOING performance development on the 340 motor, so just as you respect your 440's, 340's command THEIR OWN respect BIG TIME!!