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heli coil insert tool needed? #1030812 07/12/11 08:53 AM 07/12/11 08:53 AM
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BTTG OP mopar B Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 582 PA	Do you need the heli coil insert tool to insert the coil or can you just use a bolt screwed into it (the insert) and then break the tang off later with a screwdriver? gets pricey buying all the insert tools and surprisingly all the parts store near me do not have them on hand in store and i want to get this done.

Re: heli coil insert tool needed? [Re: BTTG] #1030813 07/12/11 09:02 AM 07/12/11 09:02 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,043 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,043 U.S.S.A.	Need the tool , it has a hook of sorts on the end to grab the insert. check a local true value store for the kit.

Re: heli coil insert tool needed? [Re: JohnRR] #1030814 07/12/11 09:10 AM 07/12/11 09:10 AM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida S scratchnfotraction I Live Here
scratchnfotraction I Live Here S Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida	you could try to grind that "hook" into the end of the bolt to make a tool. if you just run a bolt down to the tang,it will bend/break it off when the insert tighten up in the threded hole.

Re: heli coil insert tool needed? [Re: BTTG] #1030815 07/12/11 09:19 AM 07/12/11 09:19 AM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 9,336 South-Central (Sebring), FL Commando1 master
Commando1 master Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 9,336 South-Central (Sebring), FL	Has anybody figured out how to break off the tang in a through hole so that it doesn't fall down inside the engine?

Re: heli coil insert tool needed? [Re: JohnRR] #1030816 07/12/11 09:22 AM 07/12/11 09:22 AM
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BTTG OP mopar B Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 582 PA	Is there a separate insert tool for each size insert? will the insert tool in the 5/16-18 kit only insert those inserts?

Re: heli coil insert tool needed? [Re: Commando1] #1030817 07/12/11 09:25 AM 07/12/11 09:25 AM
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Challenger 1 Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio	Quote: Has anybody figured out how to break off the tang in a through hole so that it doesn't fall down inside the engine? Yes use grease on the end of your punch. The 2 auto parts stores I buy from has them in stock hanging on the wall.

Re: heli coil insert tool needed? [Re: BTTG] #1030818 07/12/11 09:26 AM 07/12/11 09:26 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio Challenger 1 Too Many Posts
Challenger 1 Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio	Quote: Is there a separate insert tool for each size insert? will the insert tool in the 5/16-18 kit only insert those inserts? Yes

Re: heli coil insert tool needed? [Re: Challenger 1] #1030819 07/12/11 09:47 AM 07/12/11 09:47 AM
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NachoRT74 master Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,096 Valencia, España	insert tool can be the same bolt size you'll use but with end steped cut. the imposible to find unless you get the kit is the thread cutter for the helicoil, since they are non commercial sizes and made just for this purpouse With a Charger born in Chrysler assembly plant in Valencia, Venezuela

Re: heli coil insert tool needed? [Re: Commando1] #1030820 07/12/11 10:31 AM 07/12/11 10:31 AM
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scratchnfotraction I Live Here S Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida	Quote: Has anybody figured out how to break off the tang in a through hole so that it doesn't fall down inside the engine? I have some long skinny mini needle nose pliers I have used to break off the tang. I have broke the tang and thred them in by hand also

Re: heli coil insert tool needed? [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1030821 07/12/11 10:47 AM 07/12/11 10:47 AM
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rbstroker super stock R Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,139 West Tennessee	Is there any way to remove the helicoil after it is installed?

Re: heli coil insert tool needed? [Re: rbstroker] #1030822 07/12/11 10:58 AM 07/12/11 10:58 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,043 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,043 U.S.S.A.	Quote: Is there any way to remove the helicoil after it is installed? Yes , you need a sharp pointed pick to bend the top of the coil out far enough to grab it with pliers then you can sort of unwind it, done it many times .

Re: heli coil insert tool needed? [Re: rbstroker] #1030823 07/12/11 10:59 AM 07/12/11 10:59 AM
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scratchnfotraction I Live Here S Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida	Quote: Is there any way to remove the helicoil after it is installed? yes,pick at the top end of coil,grab with pliers and pull/unwind it out of the hole. sometimes if the hole is loose it will turn back out picking at the end and turning it. like you would a broken bolt to back it out. faster to just pull it out and spin a new one in i do most of my alum intakes befor ever running it,cab studs are a good place to start on an alum intake,IMO

Re: heli coil insert tool needed? [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1030824 07/12/11 12:32 PM 07/12/11 12:32 PM
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pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,185 PA.	Try these and you will never use a heli-coil again. http://www.newmantools.com/kee.htm 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: heli coil insert tool needed? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1030825 07/12/11 07:05 PM 07/12/11 07:05 PM
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Supercuda About to go away Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours	Quote: Try these and you will never use a heli-coil again. http://www.newmantools.com/kee.htm I used those to fix an exhaust bolt hole on a 360, it came out. They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.

Re: heli coil insert tool needed? [Re: Supercuda] #1030826 07/13/11 01:40 PM 07/13/11 01:40 PM
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dogdays I Live Here D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376	Actually the tap is a standard however not what you have in your toolshed. It's called an STI (standard thread insert or something like that) tap. You could probably buy it online. When I stripped an exhaust hole in an aluminum head I looked at the possibilities and to me the HeliCoil was the best because it required drilling out less material. I find my HeliCoils on the 'bay. Sure a lot less than the local parts store. R.

Re: heli coil insert tool needed? [Re: dogdays] #1030827 07/13/11 03:23 PM 07/13/11 03:23 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio Challenger 1 Too Many Posts
Challenger 1 Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio	I bought a whole kit that came in a custom box that has like 4 or 5 sizes in it. At the time when I was pricing them, it was cheaper in a kit. Have had them now for a long time, don't even remember where I got them now. But it has paid for it's self many times over.

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