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Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: 1967dartgt] #1029733 07/12/11 03:37 PM 07/12/11 03:37 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,185 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,185 PA.	Quote: Quote: Quote: You name the road and its on... Road???? What the heck are you talking about? What are we going to talk about next. NOS. I love when a guy builds a small block at about 10 times the cost of a big block and still has to add a power adder. My engines are built by ME in MY garage with off the shelf parts. What you want to [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] now? Didn't think your duster was that fast or we going to race the wrecked daytona? Oh and if its not on the street I am going to bring the small block dragster if you want to run race cars. If small blocks are so good why's everyone building strokers? Cubic inches not cubic dollars rule. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: pittsburghracer] #1029734 07/12/11 03:40 PM 07/12/11 03:40 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa 1967dartgt master
1967dartgt master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa	Because we (racers) want to go faster all the time. Same reason the big block guys build them. Last edited by 1967DartGT; 07/12/11 03:41 PM. Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads STR Chassis fabraction

Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: pittsburghracer] #1029735 07/12/11 03:48 PM 07/12/11 03:48 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa 1967dartgt master
1967dartgt master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: You name the road and its on... Road???? What the heck are you talking about? What are we going to talk about next. NOS. I love when a guy builds a small block at about 10 times the cost of a big block and still has to add a power adder. My engines are built by ME in MY garage with off the shelf parts. What you want to [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] now? Didn't think your duster was that fast or we going to race the wrecked daytona? Oh and if its not on the street I am going to bring the small block dragster if you want to run race cars. If small blocks are so good why's everyone building strokers? Cubic inches not cubic dollars rule. I guess your 572 was a cheap setup? Last edited by 1967DartGT; 07/12/11 03:49 PM. Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads STR Chassis fabraction

Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: 1967dartgt] #1029736 07/12/11 04:40 PM 07/12/11 04:40 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston S sixpackgut Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: You name the road and its on... Road???? What the heck are you talking about? What are we going to talk about next. NOS. I love when a guy builds a small block at about 10 times the cost of a big block and still has to add a power adder. My engines are built by ME in MY garage with off the shelf parts. yea i love when a guy spends 12.000$ on a set of predator heads,in a tube chassis car that weighs 2500lbs and does 8.30's u got an 8.30 car? bring it to etown and watch how many people will race u with small blocks...ps i dont believe u have an 8.30 car either..lol My point. You can make a 340 or any SB run it will just cost you a butt load of money. And forget about using one in a 3800 lb B-body. You can run 10's in a heavy b-body w/ a stock stroke 440 w/ good off the shelf heads, small roller or 600ish solid cam, 4000 stall and 4.56's. Small blocks are fine and yeah they can be fast but at what cost? If you are building a bracket car and looking for 10.90's and don't have a deep wallet I'd think the best route to go is w/ a BB. The guy isn't talking about running 8's spinning his junk to 7500. He wants a weekend beater. Shoot I'd bet w/ a decent tune you could get a 440 into the 10's w/ an old school 509 and iron heads. I used to have a 380 cu in 11.5 to 1 eddy headed stock block eagle rods that would go 10.70s on pump gas and 9.70s on c-12 and 200 shot.I didn't have alot of money in that setup. Got crank new closeout mopar 500, and got the eddys used 800. So I bought eagle rods and got the machine work done witch is pretty much the same big or small block.So I had about 4500 in whole motor to go 10.70s in a 3350 lb a body. i sold those heads for $800. should have kept them though. had my hours cut in the dark hours of the bush era Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: sixpackgut] #1029737 07/12/11 04:54 PM 07/12/11 04:54 PM
Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,112 LONG ISLAND fishy340 master
fishy340 master Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,112 LONG ISLAND	hey sphinx sorry of trashin ur thread...pitts if u have a car that sits anything like mine...i will be glad to show u how much a sissy car small blocks are...o yea my engines was about 3 grand total more than a set of predators!! big blocks arent bad...but if ur gonna build one (build it big and strong) cause its embarassing when a small block w tiny tires whoops ya

Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: sixpackgut] #1029738 07/12/11 05:02 PM 07/12/11 05:02 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa 1967dartgt master
1967dartgt master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: You name the road and its on... Road???? What the heck are you talking about? What are we going to talk about next. NOS. I love when a guy builds a small block at about 10 times the cost of a big block and still has to add a power adder. My engines are built by ME in MY garage with off the shelf parts. yea i love when a guy spends 12.000$ on a set of predator heads,in a tube chassis car that weighs 2500lbs and does 8.30's u got an 8.30 car? bring it to etown and watch how many people will race u with small blocks...ps i dont believe u have an 8.30 car either..lol My point. You can make a 340 or any SB run it will just cost you a butt load of money. And forget about using one in a 3800 lb B-body. You can run 10's in a heavy b-body w/ a stock stroke 440 w/ good off the shelf heads, small roller or 600ish solid cam, 4000 stall and 4.56's. Small blocks are fine and yeah they can be fast but at what cost? If you are building a bracket car and looking for 10.90's and don't have a deep wallet I'd think the best route to go is w/ a BB. The guy isn't talking about running 8's spinning his junk to 7500. He wants a weekend beater. Shoot I'd bet w/ a decent tune you could get a 440 into the 10's w/ an old school 509 and iron heads. I used to have a 380 cu in 11.5 to 1 eddy headed stock block eagle rods that would go 10.70s on pump gas and 9.70s on c-12 and 200 shot.I didn't have alot of money in that setup. Got crank new closeout mopar 500, and got the eddys used 800. So I bought eagle rods and got the machine work done witch is pretty much the same big or small block.So I had about 4500 in whole motor to go 10.70s in a 3350 lb a body. i sold those heads for $800. should have kept them though. had my hours cut in the dark hours of the bush era Yea you should have keep them, that was my favorite motor for sure and those eddy's ran allsome for what they were. Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads STR Chassis fabraction

Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: fishy340] #1029739 07/12/11 05:02 PM 07/12/11 05:02 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 780 Woodinville, WA Viol8r super stock
Viol8r super stock Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 780 Woodinville, WA	Quote: hey sphinx sorry of trashin ur thread...pitts if u have a car that sits anything like mine...i will be glad to show u how much a sissy car small blocks are...o yea my engines was about 3 grand total more than a set of predators!! big blocks arent bad...but if ur gonna build one (build it big and strong) cause its embarassing when a small block w tiny tires whoops ya The Small block guys always have to throw in their and ruin everyones fun. Read the thread title and move one, just like I do when I see a small block under the hood of a Mopar. 1968 Pro-Touring Dodge Charger *2011 Optima Ultimate Street Car Challenge Invitee http://www.popularhotrodding.com/features/1203phr_1968_dodge_charger/index.html

Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: Viol8r] #1029740 07/12/11 05:06 PM 07/12/11 05:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	Is this about 440 builds or smallblock vs bigblock ? Ron

Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: 383man] #1029741 07/12/11 05:21 PM 07/12/11 05:21 PM
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,058 bigfork mn D dragram440 super stock
dragram440 super stock D Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,058 bigfork mn	Quote: Is this about 440 builds or smallblock vs bigblock ? Ron The Small block guys always have to throw in their and ruin everyones fun. Read the thread title and move on, just like I do when I see a small block under the hood of a Mopar. 67' charger 499 RB 10.57 at 127

Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: 1967dartgt] #1029742 07/12/11 05:26 PM 07/12/11 05:26 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	My point. You can make a 340 or any SB run it will just cost you a butt load of money. And forget about using one in a 3800 lb B-body. You can run 10's in a heavy b-body w/ a stock stroke 440 w/ good off the shelf heads, small roller or 600ish solid cam, 4000 stall and 4.56's. Small blocks are fine and yeah they can be fast but at what cost? If you are building a bracket car and looking for 10.90's and don't have a deep wallet I'd think the best route to go is w/ a BB. The guy isn't talking about running 8's spinning his junk to 7500. He wants a weekend beater. Shoot I'd bet w/ a decent tune you could get a 440 into the 10's w/ an old school 509 and iron heads. I used to have a 380 cu in 11.5 to 1 eddy headed stock block eagle rods that would go 10.70s on pump gas and 9.70s on c-12 and 200 shot.I didn't have alot of money in that setup. Got crank new closeout mopar 500, and got the eddys used 800. So I bought eagle rods and got the machine work done witch is pretty much the same big or small block.So I had about 4500 in whole motor to go 10.70s in a 3350 lb a body. My stock stroke 440 would run those numbers easy in a-body. Probably do 10.90's in this big pig with a 4bbl, more stall and 4.30's that is a big time modified SB. what gear/stall? Agian any motor can run, just what are you will to pay and put up with? I drive mine to the track and home. 10.9's in any car is going to be easier and cheaper w/ a 440.

Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: dragram440] #1029743 07/12/11 05:32 PM 07/12/11 05:32 PM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 164 Savannah, GA mopar400 member
mopar400 member Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 164 Savannah, GA	Mine is similar to the others. Built in late 90's .030 over 440 w/ zero deck Flat top JE's at 11:1 comp. stock 413 crank and rods (balanced) 452 heads w/ 2.14I, 1.81E valves, some port work heads cut around .060" to lower cc's M1 intake .509 purple shaft 850 Double pumper 10" turbo action converter, 727 w/ shift kit Run it in drive 3600 lb E body dyno'd at 506HP Best 11.29 at 120mph Engine was run several yrs. with zero issues, 10'S should be easy with 3000Lbs 1965 Fury II 1970 Challenger 440, 509 cam, 11:1 w/ 452 iron heads, 6.99 1/8, 11.29@ 120mph 1/4 (1999 Magnolia Drag strip track champion) 1992 Jeep XJ Crawler

Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: mopar400] #1029744 07/12/11 05:50 PM 07/12/11 05:50 PM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 155 Tulsa oklahoma USA 2 2734bbl member
2734bbl member 2 Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 155 Tulsa oklahoma USA	Mopar400 on what fuel? pump or race or what? thanks

Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: 2734bbl] #1029745 07/12/11 05:57 PM 07/12/11 05:57 PM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 164 Savannah, GA mopar400 member
mopar400 member Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 164 Savannah, GA	Quote: Mopar400 on what fuel? pump or race or what? thanks I always ran race gas. Mainly a race car. 112 I believe. Kevin 1965 Fury II 1970 Challenger 440, 509 cam, 11:1 w/ 452 iron heads, 6.99 1/8, 11.29@ 120mph 1/4 (1999 Magnolia Drag strip track champion) 1992 Jeep XJ Crawler

Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: RT540] #1029746 07/12/11 06:00 PM 07/12/11 06:00 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 3,210 robin hood country deaks master
deaks master Joined: May 2004 Posts: 3,210 robin hood country	Quote: Anyone can beat 8.67 1/4 mile time and 156 mph with a 440+060 build and 3.75 stroke ? I helped a good friend build a 440+060 a couple of years ago. All parts for the short block was bought from Scott Brown, besides a crane cam and an Eagle 3.75 crank he already had. Stock RB block+060, with Eagle 3.75 crank Pistons Ross 13:1 custom Rods K1 steel, stock length Cam Crane superstock grind IR-276/4714-2S-12 int. 0.707(1.5) exh. 0.670(1.5), dur. 276 at .050 Heads Indy 440-1 mildly ported with manley severe duty 2.20 Carb custom 1250 dominator on a 440-1 intake. /Tom Tom what was the weight and body. Mick 69 Dart GTS 440 mopar .590 cam, Edelbrock heads, 3200# best et 6.45, 106.78, 10.14, 132.88 mph, 1.47 60ft best 60ft 1.36

Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: fishy340] #1029747 07/12/11 06:12 PM 07/12/11 06:12 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion	Quote: hey sphinx sorry of trashin ur thread...pitts if u have a car that sits anything like mine...i will be glad to show u how much a sissy car small blocks are...o yea my engines was about 3 grand total more than a set of predators!! big blocks arent bad...but if ur gonna build one (build it big and strong) cause its embarassing when a small block w tiny tires whoops ya Your car appears to be scootin out pretty good...............if you don`t mind me askin, how fast were your times in that video? 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: Thumperdart] #1029748 07/12/11 06:26 PM 07/12/11 06:26 PM
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7074cuda member 7 Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 137 OH.	My 70 Dart 440 pulled out of a recycling place for $50 that's right $50 mp .590 cam 516 heads 2.14-1.81 and some mild porting 4.56 gears 30-9-15 M/T 3800 coan Holley 750 street HP wt 3000# but only a 11.37 and fighting for traction a fuzz under 117mph This was at TNT on this combo a lot left in it. pistons so far in the hole I get an echo when i yelled into it LOL.

Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: The Sphinx] #1029749 07/12/11 06:28 PM 07/12/11 06:28 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,185 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,185 PA.	Quote: Post them up, I'm looking to get 10.90's in a 3000 LBS car Calm down small block guys we still like younz. Now back to the original poster. It doesn't take a lot of work to build a 440 to run 10.90's in a 3000# car. 30 years ago before we had all the go fast products that are available now. I used this combo to run 9.80 in a 74 duster that weighted 2900# with me in the seat. 2900# total weight .030 over 440 with TRW forged dome pistons Stock rods (direct conection bolts, shot peened, polished beems) stock forged crank 750 comp cams roller cam Weiand tunnelram with two 750 holley carbs (76 jets summer-78 jets fall) 4:56 rear gear 727 trans 14-31-15 goodyears superstock springs (001-002) Pretty simple build but with the parts available now its crazy not to use a set of h-beem rods and an after market crank. Or you could go with a 4.150 crank and really blow those small blocks away. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: deaks] #1029750 07/12/11 06:31 PM 07/12/11 06:31 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,664 North Sweden R RT540 top fuel
RT540 top fuel R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,664 North Sweden	Quote: Tom what was the weight and body. Mick Hi Mick, Altered T-23, a little less than 2000pounds, maybe 1950, don�t remember exactly. Here�s a picture link http://race.ulkhyvlers.net/dragrace/Skelleftea/090718/16.html

Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: The Sphinx] #1029751 07/12/11 07:49 PM 07/12/11 07:49 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,396 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY Dragula I Live Here
Dragula I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,396 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	Quote: Post them up, I'm looking to get 10.90's in a 3000 LBS car High 10's with a big block is not stupid fast by any stretch.... '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: pittsburghracer] #1029752 07/12/11 09:00 PM 07/12/11 09:00 PM
Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,112 LONG ISLAND fishy340 master
fishy340 master Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,112 LONG ISLAND	Quote: Quote: Post them up, I'm looking to get 10.90's in a 3000 LBS car Calm down small block guys we still like younz. Now back to the original poster. It doesn't take a lot of work to build a 440 to run 10.90's in a 3000# car. 30 years ago before we had all the go fast products that are available now. I used this combo to run 9.80 in a 74 duster that weighted 2900# with me in the seat. 2900# total weight .030 over 440 with TRW forged dome pistons Stock rods (direct conection bolts, shot peened, polished beems) stock forged crank 750 comp cams roller cam Weiand tunnelram with two 750 holley carbs (76 jets summer-78 jets fall) 4:56 rear gear 727 trans 14-31-15 goodyears superstock springs (001-002) Pretty simple build but with the parts available now its crazy not to use a set of h-beem rods and an after market crank. Or you could go with a 4.150 crank and really blow those small blocks away. or u could go with a 340 block 40 over,10.5 compression,4" crank,750 hp carb,255/255 @50 588 lift FLAT TAPPET bullit cam..in a 3200lb dart sport with 3500 stall conv,and do 10.80's and street drive to the beach

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