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Anyone running small block PRW balancers #1026918 07/05/11 10:17 PM 07/05/11 10:17 PM
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 492 South Jersey, NJ D DragDart360 OP mopar
DragDart360 OP mopar D Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 492 South Jersey, NJ	Wondering if anyone has successfully used these. 70 Dart Swinger, 2850 lbs SB 408, Bullet roller 264/268 @50 .636 SSDS stage 2 Edelbrock heads, 1 7/8 Headmans, 1050 dominator by Dom, 9.867 @ 133

Re: Anyone running small block PRW balancers [Re: DragDart360] #1026919 07/06/11 11:07 AM 07/06/11 11:07 AM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 554 WI. S Scotts71chall mopar
Scotts71chall mopar S Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 554 WI.	I asked the same thing for the big block one and not much responce. Did ya get the solid one?

Re: Anyone running small block PRW balancers [Re: Scotts71chall] #1026920 07/06/11 12:12 PM 07/06/11 12:12 PM
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 492 South Jersey, NJ D DragDart360 OP mopar
DragDart360 OP mopar D Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 492 South Jersey, NJ	I got the solid one then another and the're both going back because the don't fit. The collar is to short and hits the timing index before seating on the crank this would allow the lower timing chain sprocket to float in and out .3" resulting in failure at some point. The collar on the first one was over 1/2' to short and the second .3" shorter than stock. I also had to shave my starter snout to clear their flexplate and their roller rockers to clear the most commonly used performance valve spring diameter. NO more PRW for me. To their credit they did send a return shipping tag and offered a refund on the balancers. 70 Dart Swinger, 2850 lbs SB 408, Bullet roller 264/268 @50 .636 SSDS stage 2 Edelbrock heads, 1 7/8 Headmans, 1050 dominator by Dom, 9.867 @ 133

Re: Anyone running small block PRW balancers [Re: DragDart360] #1026921 07/06/11 02:43 PM 07/06/11 02:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually B BradH Taking time off to work on my car
BradH Taking time off to work on my car B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually	Quote: ... To their credit they did send a return shipping tag and offered a refund on the balancers. And you took the refund, right?

Re: Anyone running small block PRW balancers [Re: BradH] #1026922 07/06/11 02:54 PM 07/06/11 02:54 PM
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 492 South Jersey, NJ D DragDart360 OP mopar
DragDart360 OP mopar D Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 492 South Jersey, NJ	Yes, Ordering a replacement from Summit right now! Last edited by DragDart360; 07/06/11 02:55 PM. 70 Dart Swinger, 2850 lbs SB 408, Bullet roller 264/268 @50 .636 SSDS stage 2 Edelbrock heads, 1 7/8 Headmans, 1050 dominator by Dom, 9.867 @ 133

Re: Anyone running small block PRW balancers [Re: DragDart360] #1026923 07/06/11 03:00 PM 07/06/11 03:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually B BradH Taking time off to work on my car
BradH Taking time off to work on my car B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually	Are you ordering one of their cheap balancers that have a rep for the outer ring slipping, or are you going to pony up the $$$ for a decent piece?

Re: Anyone running small block PRW balancers [Re: BradH] #1026924 07/06/11 03:22 PM 07/06/11 03:22 PM
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 492 South Jersey, NJ D DragDart360 OP mopar
DragDart360 OP mopar D Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 492 South Jersey, NJ	Which one slips? Summit brand, Trick flow? 70 Dart Swinger, 2850 lbs SB 408, Bullet roller 264/268 @50 .636 SSDS stage 2 Edelbrock heads, 1 7/8 Headmans, 1050 dominator by Dom, 9.867 @ 133

Re: Anyone running small block PRW balancers [Re: DragDart360] #1026925 07/06/11 04:39 PM 07/06/11 04:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually B BradH Taking time off to work on my car
BradH Taking time off to work on my car B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually	Quote: Which one slips? Summit brand, Trick flow? Summit offers two versions IIRC and people have complained about the "budget" model slipping. I don't know anything about Trick Flow's stuff. IMO, any balancer which you can buy brand new for under $250 is "highly suspect" based on the experiences I've seen and heard of. Doesn't seem to matter whose name is on it if you can buy one that cheaply. Balancers seem to fall into that category of parts where you really do get what you pay for. EDIT: Let me change my price point to $200, only because I've heard that PowerBond balancers are pretty decent and sell for somewhere in the $225-250 range IIRC. But the sub-$200 stuff is generally all Last edited by BradH; 07/06/11 06:26 PM.

Re: Anyone running small block PRW balancers [Re: BradH] #1026926 07/06/11 05:10 PM 07/06/11 05:10 PM
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DragDart360 OP mopar D Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 492 South Jersey, NJ	Quote: Quote: Which one slips? Summit brand, Trick flow? Summit offers two versions IIRC and people have complained about the "budget" model slipping. I don't know anything about Trick Flow's stuff. IMO, any balancer which you can buy brand new for under $250 is "highly suspect" based on the experiences I've seen and heard of. Doesn't seem to matter whose name is on it if you can buy one that cheaply. Balancers seem to fall into that category of parts where you really do get what you pay for. I was ordering the $159 trick flow damper but after considering what I went through with PRW I reconsidered and went with the $296 Summit brand. I have to much time and money invested to get something else that doesn't work. I'm also thrifty 70 Dart Swinger, 2850 lbs SB 408, Bullet roller 264/268 @50 .636 SSDS stage 2 Edelbrock heads, 1 7/8 Headmans, 1050 dominator by Dom, 9.867 @ 133

Re: Anyone running small block PRW balancers [Re: DragDart360] #1026927 07/06/11 07:21 PM 07/06/11 07:21 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,547 State College, PA RyanJ moparts member
RyanJ moparts member Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,547 State College, PA	The PowerBond Unit also sold under Pioneer brand & PBM is the only damper I use other than ATI. It's my "budget" choice... have never had a single problem with one, even in 700-750 HP motors, including circle track use. I've probably used 35-40 of them. I've had several Summit SFI dampers fail (slip). http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PIO-872037/

Re: Anyone running small block PRW balancers [Re: RyanJ] #1026928 07/06/11 07:38 PM 07/06/11 07:38 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,266 Renton Washington T Triple Threat master
Triple Threat master T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,266 Renton Washington	I bought an ATI, if you know anyone with a Summit or Jegs pro shop discount they can be had for about $350. -Dustin 67 Dart, 9 second, 392" G3 Hemi 68 Barracuda 340 F/SA

Re: Anyone running small block PRW balancers [Re: RyanJ] #1026929 07/06/11 08:27 PM 07/06/11 08:27 PM
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 492 South Jersey, NJ D DragDart360 OP mopar
DragDart360 OP mopar D Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 492 South Jersey, NJ	Quote: The PowerBond Unit also sold under Pioneer brand & PBM is the only damper I use other than ATI. It's my "budget" choice... have never had a single problem with one, even in 700-750 HP motors, including circle track use. I've probably used 35-40 of them. I've had several Summit SFI dampers fail (slip). http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PIO-872037/ When I did a search that one never came up. This is the one I ordered http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-B64277/ is this the one that slipped or was it the cheap one? I don't want to screw up your work. It's been shipped but I can order a different one and send it back. What do you think. 70 Dart Swinger, 2850 lbs SB 408, Bullet roller 264/268 @50 .636 SSDS stage 2 Edelbrock heads, 1 7/8 Headmans, 1050 dominator by Dom, 9.867 @ 133

Re: Anyone running small block PRW balancers [Re: DragDart360] #1026930 07/07/11 01:33 PM 07/07/11 01:33 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,547 State College, PA RyanJ moparts member
RyanJ moparts member Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,547 State College, PA	That's the one we have had alot of problems with.... I would send it back & the the Pioneer/PB for 1/2 the price, it's a much better piece.

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