Re: Acrylic urethane paint -engine compartment. Good idea?
[Re: VITC_GTX]
#1017096
06/20/11 09:02 PM
06/20/11 09:02 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 18,157
Mass
DAYCLONA
I Live Here
|
I Live Here
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 18,157
Mass
|
I could/can't understand the "thinking" in what seems just a "mopar thing" to paint the jambs and engine compartment in a different paint/stage, then the main body in BC/CC,...or painting the car in pcs, then trying to hang and adjust all the panels later,...  ...IMHO paint the car/jambs/engine compartment with the same type of paint you intend on painting the car with,....seen too many cars painted the way your painter intends to paint it,....looks like poo, you will see the difference,....your painter sounds lazy, or just cutting corners on paint mat'l ($$$$)....sorry but after painting cars/bikes/boats/trucks/etc for over 30 years I just hate hearing about these half ar$e "paint preparations" 
|
|
|
Re: Acrylic urethane paint -engine compartment. Good idea?
[Re: DAYCLONA]
#1017097
06/21/11 09:01 AM
06/21/11 09:01 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,632
Nashville, TN
MOPARMIKE69
master
|
master
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,632
Nashville, TN
|
Quote:
I could/can't understand the "thinking" in what seems just a "mopar thing" to paint the jambs and engine compartment in a different paint/stage, then the main body in BC/CC,...or painting the car in pcs, then trying to hang and adjust all the panels later,...
...IMHO paint the car/jambs/engine compartment with the same type of paint you intend on painting the car with,....seen too many cars painted the way your painter intends to paint it,....looks like poo, you will see the difference,....your painter sounds lazy, or just cutting corners on paint mat'l ($$$$)....sorry but after painting cars/bikes/boats/trucks/etc for over 30 years I just hate hearing about these half ar$e "paint preparations"
 100%!
69 Road Runner vert
69 GTX hard top
70 Road Runner 4 speed
70 Hemi Cuda vert
|
|
|
Re: Acrylic urethane paint -engine compartment. Good idea?
[Re: VITC_GTX]
#1017099
06/22/11 08:41 AM
06/22/11 08:41 AM
|
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 21,345
Marysville, O-H-I-O
70Cuda383
Too Many Posts
|
Too Many Posts
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 21,345
Marysville, O-H-I-O
|
definitely the way to go. sure, no one will probably see the door jambs but you, but everyone will see the engine bay, and honestly, I think a base/clear will have more pop than a single stage gloss
**Photobucket sucks**
|
|
|
Re: Acrylic urethane paint -engine compartment. Good idea?
[Re: VITC_GTX]
#1017104
06/23/11 03:52 AM
06/23/11 03:52 AM
|
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 5,399
Aurora, Colorado
451Mopar
master
|
master
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 5,399
Aurora, Colorado
|
Quote:
Body/paint guy wants to paint the jambs, engine compartment, trunk with single stage acrylic urethane instead of base/clear. Says that is more durable and much easier to fix in the event I damage it during reassembly. He said that I won't be able to see/tell any difference.
What your opinions?
Thanks
The acrylic urethane paint like Emeron is a very tough paint and resistant to most chemicals. It usually flows out nice without orange peel.
I think the clear coat may also be an acrylic urethane, but I think they have some orange peel which may require sanding and buffing?
I would ask the painter why he wants to do it that way?
I would just paint it all in base / clear, but maybe your painter has a good reason?
|
|
|
Re: Acrylic urethane paint -engine compartment. Good idea?
[Re: MOPARMIKE69]
#1017105
06/23/11 09:31 AM
06/23/11 09:31 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,572
Jacksonville Florida
elitecustombody
pro stock
|
pro stock
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,572
Jacksonville Florida
|
Quote:
Quote:
I could/can't understand the "thinking" in what seems just a "mopar thing" to paint the jambs and engine compartment in a different paint/stage, then the main body in BC/CC,...or painting the car in pcs, then trying to hang and adjust all the panels later,...
...IMHO paint the car/jambs/engine compartment with the same type of paint you intend on painting the car with,....seen too many cars painted the way your painter intends to paint it,....looks like poo, you will see the difference,....your painter sounds lazy, or just cutting corners on paint mat'l ($$$$)....sorry but after painting cars/bikes/boats/trucks/etc for over 30 years I just hate hearing about these half ar$e "paint preparations"
100%!
x eleventy billion
|
|
|
Re: Acrylic urethane paint -engine compartment. Good idea?
[Re: Stanton]
#1017107
06/23/11 10:32 AM
06/23/11 10:32 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 18,157
Mass
DAYCLONA
I Live Here
|
I Live Here
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 18,157
Mass
|
Quote:
Well laziness is one thing but saving you money is another.
"Saving you money" is just another way of saying "cutting corners"......seen to many guys after the car is assembled, comment that they should have done it the "right way".....
I believe in doing it the "right way", whether it be restoring the car with a single stage, 2 stage, or custom 4 stage paint system,....you finish the product entirely in the paint of choice,....so that means you budget what it will take to do it correctly,.....when I purchase parts or service for my vehicles I buy based on what I want/need, and the quality of said part or service,....price is the last thing I ask for, if it's beyond my budget, then I wait until the budget is sufficient enough to procure said part(s)/service(s).....I only want to do the car right, and do it once, other projects await,...who wants to revisit the same project because they're unhappy with the results, esp for the guy who drops it off, and picks it up later from the bodyshop?......guess what kind of hash job repaint it's going to get when you tell the painter you don't like it?....seen it too many times......But ya do as ya please.
|
|
|
Re: Acrylic urethane paint -engine compartment. Good idea?
[Re: DAYCLONA]
#1017108
06/23/11 10:45 AM
06/23/11 10:45 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,902
Athens, Greece
Pyper70
master
|
master
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,902
Athens, Greece
|
I can tell you from my experience....my jambs, trunk, engine compartment, passenger compartment, interior firewall and inside the door panels is all single stage Polo Green Metallic. I painted them myself. Its the exact color that my paint guy sprayed the car with in the 2 stage version. You can't tell the difference, its cheaper, its faster and b/c I painted it, my paint guy didnt have to open any doors or climb in somewhere to paint. 12 yrs later the paint is still the same. No expense was spared in the restoring my 69. The inside of the heaterbox is painted, the bolts hidden behind the dash are all grade 8, allen, or stainless. Since its already at your paintshop and he does it for a living go ahead and have him do the 2-stage....but when you are working in the engine bay and you drop a wrench by accident (we all use covers and blankets but sometimes we just wanna "do something quick") it will happen...a crater
Family owned 1969 Charger R/T DualQuad 440/727/GVO/3.55s
|
|
|
Re: Acrylic urethane paint -engine compartment. Good idea?
[Re: VITC_GTX]
#1017110
06/23/11 10:32 PM
06/23/11 10:32 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 22,696
Bitopia
jcc
If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
|
If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 22,696
Bitopia
|
The question still seems to be unresolved based on the above comments: 1. Which finish is the most durable? 2. Which finish has the best look in an engine bay? 3. Who/how many can see the difference? 4. Does it save the painter or the owner money, time, materials, headache, etc? 5. If the painter is indeed "lazy" he sounds upfront, and thats got to be a big plus. I would single stage it.
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
|
|
|
|
|
