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Re: What are the rules for Nastalgia Super Stock?
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National Rules http://evansvillekia.comhttp://nmcadigital.comSome other clubs, series, individual track owners and promoters for example, Nostalgia Super Stocks Inc., 422 Motorsports, Texas Outsiders, have written their own rules for their specific uses.
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Re: What are the rules for Nastalgia Super Stock?
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This is hard to explain, but giving it a try:
NHRA established Super Stock in 1957 and then reorganized and modified the classes and rules for both Stock and Super Stock in 1966, which makes for one of the most confusing aspects to current NSS rules.
The reorganization allowed the inclusion of the 'pony cars' (Mustangs, Camaros, etc.), single 4-bbl combinations and also an index timing system into Super Stock Eliminator at that time and since then.
However, many NSS racers consider the period from 1959 through 1967 with traditional post and hardtop body styles, big block engines, two carburetors and 'heads up' racing as the 'Golden Era' of factory direct participation (package cars built specifically for racing), with some exceptions such as the 1968 Hemi Darts and Barracudas and the American Motors 1969 AMX models.
In addition, with the establishment of Pro Stock in 1970 (helped by the dislike of 'brake light' index racing), and then mostly the loss of direct factory participation, many consider that time period (1967 to 1970 and later) as past the end of 'traditional' Super Stock.
Therefore, the 'pony cars' and late arrival of the 'Cudas and Challengers, have been generally been considered to be not representative of 'true' Super Stock cars.
So with the establishment of NSS in the late 1980's, the first rules were written with bias against 'pony cars' and 'the late arrivals' with the period 1959 through 1967 as the general standard and the majority is still supporting this interpretation.
As a matter of both fact and opinion, this issue has been the subject of considerable discussion and debate which will likely continue well into the future.
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Re: What are the rules for Nastalgia Super Stock?
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06/05/11 09:21 AM
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I was looking over the racing at the Mopar Action at the Grove. I was wondering if I can run my street car in Nastalgia Super Stock?
It depends on which rules they are using. Did you call them and ask?
Dennis
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Re: What are the rules for Nastalgia Super Stock?
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If you're questioning the Mopar action race, I was kind of wondering what/ how they were going to run also. Is nostalgia and current Super Stock cars going to run together? I see they have an electronics and non- electronics class, where you could run one of those. Bring the car and support the event! 
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Re: What are the rules for Nastalgia Super Stock?
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The entries at these races are full, and, to be frank, they don't need the E bodies and Camaros, and other pony cars. There is no shortage of "legal" NSS cars.
You would have to consider me a purist in this regard, as I agree totally with the rules as they are. Keep it to big cars, two four barrells, 62-67 with the exception of factory "package" cars. For my money, the 422 All Stars, and the manner in which it is run is what I like the best, and I've tried most of them.
If they want to make a Nostalgia Pro Stock class, for E bodies and pony cars, have at it.
"Old age and treachery trumps youth and enthusiasm, every time!" East Central Director / Chrysler Power Magazine www.reasbeckracing.webs.com
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Re: What are the rules for Nastalgia Super Stock?
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The entries at these races are full, and, to be frank, they don't need the E bodies and Camaros, and other pony cars. There is no shortage of "legal" NSS cars.
You would have to consider me a purist in this regard, as I agree totally with the rules as they are. Keep it to big cars, two four barrells, 62-67 with the exception of factory "package" cars. For my money, the 422 All Stars, and the manner in which it is run is what I like the best, and I've tried most of them.
If they want to make a Nostalgia Pro Stock class, for E bodies and pony cars, have at it.
We have a special class for 62-67 cars. Then there is a special late model 07 and later class for the new hemis. But my car doesn't fit into either class. Maybe I will call Maple Grove and see if I can sponser a class for red plymouth hemi e bodies?
This way I will have a special class for my car and only get to run against other cars that I enjoy racing against.
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Re: What are the rules for Nastalgia Super Stock?
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06/05/11 11:04 PM
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Find someone to post a purse, get enough cars, and do it.
Sounds like a good idea.
Remember, NSS is designed to re-create a specific time period in drag racing history. It is not another bracket class, it is unique. They are not street cars, either.
To many of us, including me, the "golden era" of the sport was 1962 through 1969, with the doorslammer wars of the mid sixties being the most golden. That is why it is limited to what it is limited to, no pony cars, no electronics, no funky hood scoops, no gizmos. 422 All Stars requires period correct lettering. They are a specifically built car, so if someone wants to race NSS dig out the rules and build one. But, don't expect the NSS guys to change the rules. It ain't gonna happen.
It is obvious that there are many others who feel the same, as the class is full, and is growing. They pack the house at places like Beaver Springs, Pittsburgh, and others.
It is a great class, and has given guys like me new life to do something I've been doing for forty plus years. I'm not into street cruisers, not into regular brackets. There are enough like me that this is what was created, and there is enough interest that it has taken off and is growing each year.
I'm very surprised, and grateful, that it has blossomed the way it has.
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Re: What are the rules for Nastalgia Super Stock?
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I got a question. Those of you who know me also know that Im a huge fan and support NSS racing. With that being said my question is.... Where would a 71 Charger fall into play at? Lets say its a Super Stock legal built car with either a HEMI with factory correct carbs or lets say a 440 6 pack. It misses the "cut off" year for NSS and trying to find a Pro Stock Class would be difficult not to mention a heavy Charger might not do as well against the lighter E or A bodies. I understand the thought process in not allowing pony cars in but a Charger is far from a pony car so where would it fall into play at? Been thinking about this for a while and just wanted to hear some thoughts on this. thanks! Doug
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Re: What are the rules for Nastalgia Super Stock?
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I got a question. Those of you who know me also know that Im a huge fan and support NSS racing.
With that being said my question is....
Where would a 71 Charger fall into play at?
Lets say its a Super Stock legal built car with either a HEMI with factory correct carbs or lets say a 440 6 pack. It misses the "cut off" year for NSS and trying to find a Pro Stock Class would be difficult not to mention a heavy Charger might not do as well against the lighter E or A bodies. I understand the thought process in not allowing pony cars in but a Charger is far from a pony car so where would it fall into play at? Been thinking about this for a while and just wanted to hear some thoughts on this.
thanks!
Doug
I dont think it would fall into a NSS class. Sure it could run NHRA SS but from what I have seen most NSS classes dont go past 1969 I believe and some dont even let 1969 cars in. I mean I guess they consider the golden years of factory backed NSS from 62 to 67 I think from what I see. This is just what it looks to me as it is not my opinion. Ron
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Re: What are the rules for Nastalgia Super Stock?
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I love Nostalgia Super Stock. Where else can you watch period correct cars from the 1960's battle it out with their 500"+ big blocks, Weld wheels, and 32x14 tires (10.5W's as you call them)?
 Now that's funny!
Don't forget fiberglass panels, lexan windows, and oversized 'factory' hood scoops. But don't call them bracket cars.
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Re: What are the rules for Nastalgia Super Stock?
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I love Nostalgia Super Stock. Where else can you watch period correct cars from the 1960's battle it out with their 500"+ big blocks, Weld wheels, and 32x14 tires (10.5W's as you call them)?
I don't know much about NSS but I do remember racing in the 60's. SS cars weren't running 500" motors or Weld Wheels.
I don't know about the 32x14's.
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