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It's not looking good for testing this weekend. #1004167 05/31/11 11:00 PM 05/31/11 11:00 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy J joshking440 OP Lunch is on me!
joshking440 OP Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	Well Friday I chewed up a rocker due to a pushrod cup that broke. Looked like it had gotten hot, but couldn't tell if it was before or after the carnage. Took the other valve cover off and found the first 4 pushrods smoked. I mean black. So bad the adjusters were mushroomed out and the cups on the pushrods were distorted to match the mushroomed adjusters. Looks like I may have turned a cam bearing and im now not getting the oil supply i need up to the rockers. I will run the primer rod tomorrow and confirm, but I'm not sure if there is another avenue to check. I ordered smith bros pushrods and adjusters, I'm going to have to polish one of the rocker shafts, I hope I haven't hurt any valve springs in all of this. If i did turn a cam bearing im going to obviously replace that and I'm guessing the cam as well. And i have to try to get this all done before next Friday. This blows. Sorry for the rant.

Re: It's not looking good for testing this weekend. [Re: joshking440] #1004168 05/31/11 11:39 PM 05/31/11 11:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 803 Idabel,Oklahoma G Gary Robbins super stock
Gary Robbins super stock G Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 803 Idabel,Oklahoma	Josh,everyone will understand if it doesn't all come together,we all know how bad you want to make the June race.Sometimes things aren't ment to be and are out of our controll...We still don't have the fish back together and may not get to test either until the Friday before the race...Gary

Re: It's not looking good for testing this weekend. [Re: Gary Robbins] #1004169 05/31/11 11:45 PM 05/31/11 11:45 PM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA bigtimeauto Trophy Winner
bigtimeauto Trophy Winner Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA	Don't give up!!! But you can ad me to the no test time list. I won't have mine on the dyno till sat. After that its load it up and test wherever this race is! BB, TT5,Procharged 3300lb Street Car 4.79/154

Re: It's not looking good for testing this weekend. [Re: bigtimeauto] #1004170 05/31/11 11:47 PM 05/31/11 11:47 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy J joshking440 OP Lunch is on me!
joshking440 OP Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	Can we get a cam fast bob?

Re: It's not looking good for testing this weekend. [Re: joshking440] #1004171 05/31/11 11:51 PM 05/31/11 11:51 PM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA bigtimeauto Trophy Winner
bigtimeauto Trophy Winner Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA	maybe. email me your specs. I have one that might be close. BB, TT5,Procharged 3300lb Street Car 4.79/154

Re: It's not looking good for testing this weekend. [Re: joshking440] #1004172 05/31/11 11:52 PM 05/31/11 11:52 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Best of luck to you on getting it back together.... bummer it happen right before your race...well at least you found it now

Re: It's not looking good for testing this weekend. [Re: joshking440] #1004173 05/31/11 11:57 PM 05/31/11 11:57 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,300 Northern Indiana Dunnuck Racing master
Dunnuck Racing master Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,300 Northern Indiana	Josh, Put a list up of exactly what you need or at least e-mail it to me.If I have anything you need,it's yours.Hell,I will even run it down to you. Just let me know. Keith www.dunnuckracing.com

Re: It's not looking good for testing this weekend. [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1004174 05/31/11 11:59 PM 05/31/11 11:59 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,491 Oologah, Oklahoma Big Squeeze pro stock
Big Squeeze pro stock Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,491 Oologah, Oklahoma	Hey Josh......You can always go to the Indy test session next Wednesday with the Fuel cars .....I'll probably be there with Rob Flynn..... If you can't handle the truth, you're living a lie.......

Re: It's not looking good for testing this weekend. [Re: Big Squeeze] #1004175 06/01/11 12:25 AM 06/01/11 12:25 AM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy J joshking440 OP Lunch is on me!
joshking440 OP Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	If my car has no chance of being together or its somehow done, I will be there hangin out with the DSR guys, pretending to be important....

Re: It's not looking good for testing this weekend. [Re: joshking440] #1004176 06/01/11 02:22 PM 06/01/11 02:22 PM
Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,112 LONG ISLAND fishy340 master
fishy340 master Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,112 LONG ISLAND	that blows,but dont go mayday to rush it,,if its meant to be,its meant to be. good luck to all u guys that are going

Re: It's not looking good for testing this weekend. [Re: fishy340] #1004177 06/01/11 05:23 PM 06/01/11 05:23 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	Sorry to hear that Josh. Good luck with it. Ron

Re: It's not looking good for testing this weekend. [Re: bigtimeauto] #1004178 06/01/11 05:45 PM 06/01/11 05:45 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,689 On the parachute mount N n20mstr master
n20mstr master N Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,689 On the parachute mount	Quote: Don't give up!!! But you can ad me to the no test time list. I won't have mine on the dyno till sat. After that its load it up and test wherever this race is! DYNO ??? ....BAD A$$ STREET CAR.....

Re: It's not looking good for testing this weekend. [Re: n20mstr] #1004179 06/01/11 06:17 PM 06/01/11 06:17 PM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA bigtimeauto Trophy Winner
bigtimeauto Trophy Winner Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA	Quote: Quote: Don't give up!!! But you can ad me to the no test time list. I won't have mine on the dyno till sat. After that its load it up and test wherever this race is! DYNO ??? I took my car out a few weeks ago and it decided to eat the carb vent tube. I tore it apart fixed it and decided to throw fuel injection on it. I will finish it up tomorrow night and then throw some kind of tune in it on sat. No time to go to the track after that so if all goes well sat i'll clean it on sunday and load it up. BB, TT5,Procharged 3300lb Street Car 4.79/154

Re: It's not looking good for testing this weekend. [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #1004180 06/01/11 06:47 PM 06/01/11 06:47 PM
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 99 USA B BB Dart 69 member
BB Dart 69 member B Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 99 USA	Quote: Josh, Put a list up of exactly what you need or at least e-mail it to me.If I have anything you need,it's yours.Hell,I will even run it down to you. Just let me know. Keith People helping people, thats what its all about

Re: It's not looking good for testing this weekend. [Re: BB Dart 69] #1004181 06/01/11 07:26 PM 06/01/11 07:26 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,542 BROOK PARK, OH WILD BILL Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club
WILD BILL Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,542 BROOK PARK, OH	Josh, Have you considered going to a cross over oiling system? I don't have much any more but there is anything I can do to help let me know.

Re: It's not looking good for testing this weekend. [Re: WILD BILL] #1004182 06/01/11 08:29 PM 06/01/11 08:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio S Sport440 master
Sport440 master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio	Quote: Josh, Have you considered going to a cross over oiling system? On one of Feets,s thread in Power adders, "Anybody lose a boosted BB" Trendz posted a slick way to oil the top end. It involves spinning the cam bearing and closing that route, and drilling the head feeds tube into the main side galleys on both sides. Then Install plugs in the outer hole. The heads now get fed directly from the galley, instead of through the cam bearing and robbing its oil supply from the #4 main. Last edited by Sport440; 06/01/11 08:30 PM.

Re: It's not looking good for testing this weekend. [Re: Sport440] #1004183 06/01/11 10:23 PM 06/01/11 10:23 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy J joshking440 OP Lunch is on me!
joshking440 OP Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	Well, I found it wasnt the cam bearing.... No matter where the cam position is I get a tiny tiny dribble of oil as I have a grove cut in the cam.... Where the cam oiling holes line up I can shoot a steady stream of oil over the fenders on either side just depending on which position the cam is lined up.....thats seems to be plenty. I did this with a cordless drill on low as I didnt want to exaggerate anything. So now what? do I chalk it up to a rogue piece of garbage in the oil path? Not sure what to check. I ordered new push rods and adjusters from Smith Bros that will be here tomorrow. Im at a loss. I dont want to miss this race, but I dont want to waste 500 dollars in parts when I am overlooking something Keith, As always man, your generosity is unmatched my friend. If I get in a bind, I will call you for sure.

Re: It's not looking good for testing this weekend. [Re: joshking440] #1004184 06/02/11 12:09 AM 06/02/11 12:09 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio S Sport440 master
Sport440 master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio	Well, thats good news! Your getting plenty of oil up to the shafts. You now need to find out where or why the oil isnt getting to the cups of the pushrods. This is Not a uncommon problem with aftermarket rockers. I dont know who's you are using. Ive seen several posts/pictures of members smoking their pushrod cups. Andy F., Bob G. Von, Etc,Etc. So your not the only one. The fixes can be various. The Oldest most simplest mistake was installing the rocker shaft reversed. As mounted the oil shaft feed holes need to point towards the exhaust. In your case Im, sure yours are correct. Beyond that, people have bannana grooved the rocker bodies. And also have tried redrilling the pushrod cup oil feed to make sure its open or has a better angle to the pushrod cup. Another possible problem is the adjusters ball radius match to the pushrods cup. . Thats all I can think of at the moment. Like I said, It seems you have plenty of oil to the shaft. You need to chase it from there.

Re: It's not looking good for testing this weekend. [Re: joshking440] #1004185 06/02/11 12:26 AM 06/02/11 12:26 AM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,295 U.S. M moparniac master
moparniac master M Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,295 U.S.	josh this may not be your problem but make sure pushrods are clearanced in those areas! from all the pushrod flexing mine had from "interference" last time it out it was breaking/chipping cups also and I had plenty oil up top... good luck man Mopar Performance

Re: It's not looking good for testing this weekend. [Re: joshking440] #1004186 06/02/11 12:41 AM 06/02/11 12:41 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Josh I didnt read what rockers your using... what are they.... when you had oil squirting over the fender was that coning out of the hole in the head(where the shaft sits)

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