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upper shock hardware #1000126 05/26/11 01:08 PM 05/26/11 01:08 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,369 Iowa burdar OP Owen's Dad
burdar OP Owen's Dad Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,369 Iowa	I've seen a few kits available from different companies. The ones I've seen include two stamped steel nuts. What are those for? Do they screw on after the main nut to act as a lock? Does anyone have any survivor pictures of this? Thanks

Re: upper shock hardware [Re: burdar] #1000127 05/26/11 08:24 PM 05/26/11 08:24 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,369 Iowa burdar OP Owen's Dad
burdar OP Owen's Dad Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,369 Iowa

Re: upper shock hardware [Re: burdar] #1000128 05/26/11 09:27 PM 05/26/11 09:27 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,044 At a gas station near you B badblack68 master
badblack68 master B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,044 At a gas station near you	The stamped steel nut is used as a locknut. I don't have any pics of this set up on a survivor car. We have all of that hardware available on our website.

Re: upper shock hardware [Re: burdar] #1000129 05/26/11 09:31 PM 05/26/11 09:31 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,123 Warrenton, VA RoadRunnerJD master
RoadRunnerJD master Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,123 Warrenton, VA	It screws on upside down ontop of the nut as a retainer or something. It's hard to believe that it's really needed?

Re: upper shock hardware [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #1000130 05/26/11 09:57 PM 05/26/11 09:57 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio Challenger 1 Too Many Posts
Challenger 1 Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio	Quote: It screws on upside down ontop of the nut as a retainer or something. It's hard to believe that it's really needed? You can't use a lock nut because the stud would turn on the shock when installing the nut. So they use the lock nut to lock the nut on.

Re: upper shock hardware [Re: Challenger 1] #1000131 05/26/11 11:20 PM 05/26/11 11:20 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,369 Iowa burdar OP Owen's Dad
burdar OP Owen's Dad Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,369 Iowa	I found two stamped nuts like that in my dads bolt bins. They were too large to screw onto the brake booster studs. They do screw onto the shock though. I suppose they could be the origonal ones for the car. Quote: It screws on upside down ontop of the nut as a retainer So you're saying that the open part of the nut goes down, twards the other nut?

Re: upper shock hardware [Re: burdar] #1000132 05/27/11 01:06 AM 05/27/11 01:06 AM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,123 Warrenton, VA RoadRunnerJD master
RoadRunnerJD master Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,123 Warrenton, VA	The open part goes up.

Re: upper shock hardware [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #1000133 05/27/11 07:54 AM 05/27/11 07:54 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,442 It's a dry heat gtx6970 Too Many Posts
gtx6970 Too Many Posts Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,442 It's a dry heat	Quote: The open part goes up. correct, it's essentially a jam nut

Re: upper shock hardware [Re: gtx6970] #1000134 05/27/11 09:37 AM 05/27/11 09:37 AM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,369 Iowa burdar OP Owen's Dad
burdar OP Owen's Dad Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,369 Iowa	That's what I thought but when he said it goes on upside down I was confused. Thanks

Re: upper shock hardware [Re: burdar] #1000135 05/28/11 03:09 PM 05/28/11 03:09 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,238 State of retirement 5 52savoy master
52savoy master 5 Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,238 State of retirement	My memory is getting really bad but I don't remember the sheet metal lock nuts on assembly line front shocks just on replacements like Monroe. .... but I would make sure. I have some NOS shocks and I'll check the hardware bags.

Re: upper shock hardware [Re: 52savoy] #1000136 05/29/11 04:51 PM 05/29/11 04:51 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 9,550 Sacramento CA M Morty426 master
Morty426 master M Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 9,550 Sacramento CA	Quote: My memory is getting really bad but I don't remember the sheet metal lock nuts on assembly line front shocks just on replacements like Monroe. .... but I would make sure. I have some NOS shocks and I'll check the hardware bags. My NOS hardware bag didn't have them

Re: upper shock hardware [Re: Morty426] #1000137 05/29/11 11:43 PM 05/29/11 11:43 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,039 INDIANA P Paul Jacobs super stock
Paul Jacobs super stock P Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,039 INDIANA	While they were probably specified to be there from the factory, I have seen few original cars with them. I'm sure the line workers threw them in the trash as it was one more step. Having said that, I have documented them from 67-71 on all bodies. Here is an untouched 68 Coronet, notice the smaller 68 style washer not currently available. 6657246-shock.JPG (37 downloads)

Re: upper shock hardware [Re: Paul Jacobs] #1000138 05/29/11 11:50 PM 05/29/11 11:50 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,238 State of retirement 5 52savoy master
52savoy master 5 Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,238 State of retirement	Is that red paint on the tip only or the whole shock because I've never seen red production shocks. That would add even more confusion to shock colors. Speaking of shocks..has anyone decifered(charted) the ORIFLOW numbers to correspond to the build sheets? I have a small collection of shocks but no way of knowing what models they fit. Most of the P/Ns are missing from the boxes. Last edited by 52savoy; 05/29/11 11:56 PM.

Re: upper shock hardware [Re: 52savoy] #1000139 05/30/11 12:38 AM 05/30/11 12:38 AM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,039 INDIANA P Paul Jacobs super stock
Paul Jacobs super stock P Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,039 INDIANA	That is mearly a paint dab designating it as a light duty shock, as compared to a blue dab that would indicate heavy duty. It was simply a quick reference for the line worker much the same as the leaf spring and torsion bar markings. All factory shocks from the era I speak of were black. I have researched the builds sheets and compared them to the actual parts fpund on cars. They are often 1 number off (part number vs casting number) and Galens White Books goes along with this finding.

Re: upper shock hardware [Re: Paul Jacobs] #1000140 05/30/11 01:28 AM 05/30/11 01:28 AM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,850 Central Coast, Calif. S Snoopy master
Snoopy master S Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,850 Central Coast, Calif.	The shocks seem to be the exception to the rule. The last 2 numbers stamped on the shock, should match the 2 numbers printed on the build sheet. Th part number on the box, very rarely matchs the part number stamped on the shock. In fact, the part number on the box may represent many different stamped shock numbers.

Re: upper shock hardware [Re: Snoopy] #1000141 05/31/11 02:27 AM 05/31/11 02:27 AM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,238 State of retirement 5 52savoy master
52savoy master 5 Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,238 State of retirement	Quote: The shocks seem to be the exception to the rule. The last 2 numbers stamped on the shock, should match the 2 numbers printed on the build sheet. Th part number on the box, very rarely matchs the part number stamped on the shock. In fact, the part number on the box may represent many different stamped shock numbers. and that's where the problem lies... With all the research over everything mopar you would think by now someone(with resources) sorted out the shock dilemma and made a reference chart.

Re: upper shock hardware [Re: Paul Jacobs] #1000142 05/31/11 01:39 PM 05/31/11 01:39 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,294 Ontario, Canada FJ5_Fish pro stock
FJ5_Fish pro stock Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,294 Ontario, Canada	Quote: While they were probably specified to be there from the factory, I have seen few original cars with them. I'm sure the line workers threw them in the trash as it was one more step. Having said that, I have documented them from 67-71 on all bodies. Here is an untouched 68 Coronet, notice the smaller 68 style washer not currently available. Paul - I have seen the two different sizes used with no rhyme nor reason on various years...different vendors maybe? I have also seen those lock nuts installed upside down on a few original cars..... but hollow side up would be the proper engineering intent. The Guru's book shows a lot of cross-referenced shock numbers....most of them look correct

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